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Zach Zagar
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From: Jefferson City, MO
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 07-10-2000 11:07 PM      Profile for Zach Zagar   Author's Homepage   Email Zach Zagar   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Its all about $$$ when it comes to cleaning a theater.

Shorter drop times, equals more shows daily (I'm squeezing 7 SHOWS daily for Chicken Run, not including the Fri/Sat late show).

If we can get in and clean at credits (DISCREETLY OF COURSE), we got to.

Perfect world, yes, 40 minute drop times, and that'd be great, but since when is the world perfect, they're making Blair Witch 2, how's that for evidence?



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John Wilson
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 - posted 07-22-2000 03:33 AM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't _REALLY_ mind if people are cleaning during the credits, but I agree with Brad's philosophy...always stay behind the person who is furthest to the back of the theatre. Never get in front of any patron nor clean in the same row as they are in...

...and if you must clean...SHUT THE F#@K UP!

There...I feel better...

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Bill Enos
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 - posted 07-26-2000 11:43 PM      Profile for Bill Enos   Email Bill Enos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We sometimes clean behind those watching credits. Lights are never high enough to affect the screen and we always clean between shows. We always start a few minutes late anyway. Hell, if we ever started on time the patrons would think something was wrong.

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Mike Spaeth
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 - posted 07-27-2000 01:28 AM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm the manager of an 8-screen movie theater. We do not clean until A - every customer leaves the auditorium or B - the projector hits the inboard cue that closes the douser and brings the lights back up (right before the blus rating strip would hit). Anything less than this is simply inconsiderate of the paying customers that wish to watch the credits. The ushers stand outside, in the hallway, w/ 1 usher in the back of the auditorium that signals the rest in when it is all clear. We also do a THOROUGH cleaning job - not just picking up the big stuff. The auditorium looks like the janitorial crew just finished cleaning it. This is easily accomplished w/ 30-45 minute intermission times (it is a fairly low-level theater - 250K/year, but is busy on the right picture).

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Per Hauberg
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 - posted 07-27-2000 08:25 AM      Profile for Per Hauberg   Author's Homepage   Email Per Hauberg   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Clean cinema for every show YES
Cleaning staff in cinema together with custumers ABSOLUTELY NOW

Troubleshoot: Next desk - The guy, who plans your screenings.

Maybe there very few, -those patrons wanting to read, who was running for the directors lighter, etc. - But they've paid to watch the whole movie without any disturbence. Therefore, noone to clean up before last man has left.


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Dave Williams
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 - posted 07-27-2000 11:37 AM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I hate people that leave thier trash all over the place. They are total slobs! What to do about it? I NEVER WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE OUT... In fact I start as soon as the credits start. In fact, I am frequently heard saying "OH MY LORD!!! WERE YOU PEOPLE RAISED IN A PIG STY OR WHAT???"

I really am not kidding. Business is actually increasing, and my job of cleaning up is shrinking. I am pissing off the slobs.... In fact I have a sign on the door that says NO SLOBS ALLOWED, and describes what a slob is. Maybe as an independant I can get away with it. Could also be that I am a cranky old man and it is somewhat humourous to hear me go crazy at the end of a show.

Dave

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 07-27-2000 01:47 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I must come visit your theater Dave! Can I work there free for a day cleaning auditoriums? I've wanted to say that to customers at least ten thousand times and was never allowed.

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Dave Williams
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 - posted 07-29-2000 01:41 AM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The mall came over and made me take my signs down today. they found them humourous, but people were complaining and they have an image to uphold. SO i am working on new signs, "SENSE OF HUMOR REQUIRED FOR ENTRY... BORING PEOPLE PLEASE GO NEXT DOOR"

I encourage my employees to express themselves. I truly believe people hate to see people in uniforms, acting and talking a part, a part that they themselves hate. I get lots of adults and old people giving me constant "here here" and one guy said "you tell em dude".

After I get my "grand reopening" over with in three weeks I will send some pictures... Before and After..

OH yeah... and I am contemplating a "wall of shame", poloroids of people sneaking in concessions or leaving trash on the floor. You think that will piss anyone off??

Dave

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Martin Frandsen
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 - posted 07-29-2000 05:23 AM      Profile for Martin Frandsen   Email Martin Frandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As a very frequent movie goer like my self, i don't feel it's a good idea when the cleaning people start sweeping floors etc. when the show is still running, just because the end credits are there, why are people in such a hurry?, what will the next be? cleaning staff start cleaning 2 min. before end credits, then 5 and 10 min. so on. Many like to listen to the end music which is great sometimes, but patriots feel they are in the way of the cleaner and leave early, do they really wanted to hear the end music.

Over here it's the same people are 'PIGS' and take there video manners to the theater throwing trash all over the place, i myself use the trash bins, there always empty!


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Scott Magie
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 - posted 07-31-2000 01:31 AM      Profile for Scott Magie   Email Scott Magie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Atta boy, Dave!
We all want to be you when we grow up... or at least I do! I usually hold my tongue (but see story below).

Our showtime schedules are insane! If a movie's running time is 120 minutes or less, it's showtime is always 7 & 9. Anything longer is 7 & 9:15! Our nine o'clocks regularly start anywhere from 2-15 minutes late, depending on how busy we are (and sometimes I am required to start the 7's late if there's a line at concessions, making the 9's REALLY late). I've begged and pleaded but the owner says that this is farming country and people get up too early to go to anything that starts after 9-9:15. So although I hate myself for it, we are always scrabbling around picking up the "big stuff" as the credits roll (and we'll do anything but climb over you to get that theatre cleaned) 'cuz as soon as the last patron has turned his back on the screen, we shut the douser, flip to non-sync, bring the lights up and let in the next crowd. Many times I have the next crowd seated before the tail has even run through. You can bet we DON'T tell anyone about surprises. IRENE and WHAT LIES BENEATH have both given us trouble lately, though, because they were both filmed here in Vermont, so people want to stay to see their governor and film commissioner get thanked at the end. Then they like to linger by the bathrooms talking about how their friend at work saw Harrison Ford outside a diner and touched his motorcycle after he went inside. This is when I have to get rude and apologetically boot people out the exit doors so we can seat the next crowd, which is already 5 minutes late for their start-time. Then, once their seated, I still have to clean and thread, so their looking at a grand delay of 15 minutes from their original start time. Add to that standing in the rain due to our miniscule lobby and you've got yourself some happy customers that wanna come back again and again!

Now for the story about me not holding my tongue...
As people were exiting through the lobby after our late show, one woman informed me that our bathrooms "are way too small, and they always have been!" She said this as she disappeared out the door, to which I responded, "thanks, I'll get right on that!"
She didn't hear, but the rest of the people exiting did and they all burst out laughing. It was a satisfying moment for me.

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Sean McKinnon
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 - posted 09-13-2000 03:36 PM      Profile for Sean McKinnon   Author's Homepage   Email Sean McKinnon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
when I worked at a 3 screen second run theatre we had toy story two and one day we were shorthanded and the previous show had started late we had already 200 people in the lobby waiting to seat the next show and the auditorium was trashed so right at the end of the movie before the bloopers I shut the douser and turned off the exciterlamp because we had to get the people out. also in situations like this we would open up the side fire exit doors and hold them open so people would go out that way instead of adding more chaos to the 200 people already in the lobby

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Gracia L. Babbidge
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From: Bowdoin, Maine
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 - posted 09-13-2000 03:54 PM      Profile for Gracia L. Babbidge   Author's Homepage   Email Gracia L. Babbidge   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Did my eyes deceive me, or did someone refer to a 35 minute turnaround time as 'tight'?

:::shakes head in disbelief:::

I for a long time was quite accustomed to a 20-25 minute turnaround time!

Seen worse though - someone screwing around with your show schedule, sometimes scheduling two films to start at the same time, several times a day; and in some instances leave under 15 minutes turnaroud time!
....I've seen it happen, not fun, not fun at all...

~Gracia

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Scott Norwood
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25 minutes is TIGHT? Surely you jest! I've done MANY 5-minute turnarounds in single-screen theatres. It's no problem at all with a changeover setup...

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Jim Ziegler
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 - posted 09-14-2000 01:18 AM      Profile for Jim Ziegler   Email Jim Ziegler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If you have to clean a large, sold out theatre, 25 minutes is very tight.... Rethreading isn't the problem... Picking up the trash is.

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Gracia L. Babbidge
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 - posted 09-14-2000 01:38 AM      Profile for Gracia L. Babbidge   Author's Homepage   Email Gracia L. Babbidge   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hmm...at the theaters that I have worked (which are all in Maine), the largest auditorium I've ever had to clean has 239 seats... so no, over half an hour of turnaround time for cleaning up is rarely necessary. Amount of time needed for cleaning always varies with how many people see a show, the kind of show it is, the kind of crowd it is, how much they purchase from the concession stand (or manage to sneak in), etc etc.

Personally, I think everyone who has never worked at a cinema ought to have a week where they do 40 hours (community service style) of just cleaning up cinema auditoriums! I really think it would help cut down on the messes left behind at the end of a show!

~GLB

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