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Paul Konen
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From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 10-06-2000 08:39 AM      Profile for Paul Konen   Email Paul Konen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Carl - Are you referring to "SMART" or Mondex Cards. Debit Cards in the states are the same as credit cards except they are linked to your checking account and the money is immediately withdrawn.

Paul.


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Chad Souder
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 - posted 10-07-2000 09:52 AM      Profile for Chad Souder   Email Chad Souder   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad is right, but if you can't get an ATM machine (which a lot of banks are willing to let you have one for a trial period, and then see if it does enough business to keep), you HAVE to take checks. Reason being, people will leave if they don't have enough cash, and maybe not come back. In addition, letting them make it out for over almost guarantees more spent at the concession stand. It doesn't take that long to write a check, especially if you have more than one person selling tickets, its really a non-factor. Subscribing to a collection agency helps against bounced checks. Think of it like a casino. The more options you give people to have access to their money, the more money they are likely to spend.

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Tom Kroening
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 - posted 10-07-2000 08:38 PM      Profile for Tom Kroening   Email Tom Kroening   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If you have sat link or other fast always on connection to the net credit card checks take seconds.

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Charles Everett
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 - posted 06-19-2001 06:15 PM      Profile for Charles Everett   Email Charles Everett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In my area it's a mixed bag as far as credit cards.

Tickets: AMC, Loews and Regal take debit/credit cards at kiosks and the box office. UA and City Cinemas/Reading have kiosks but only for Moviefone orders. UA also takes debit/credit cards at the box office IIRC. In the AMC kiosks you get the MovieWatcher receipt if you use your MovieWatcher card.

Concessions: AMC and UA take debit/credit cards. Not recommended, though, if it's a busy night. Once I used a debit card at an AMC concession stand and the transaction took forever to process (system was running slow). Fortunately the stand wasn't busy at the time.

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Bill Enos
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 - posted 06-20-2001 01:33 PM      Profile for Bill Enos   Email Bill Enos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Money, cash, are the only forms of payment we take.. Hell, if you don't have enough cash for a movie, maybe you should have stayed home.

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Paul Turner
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 - posted 06-21-2001 12:07 AM      Profile for Paul Turner   Email Paul Turner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We do cash and cks. Being that our snack bar and box office are at the same counter, we can total both on one ck. Wanting to write a ck for more than the amount sends up red flags. We're a small town and have very little problem with bounced cks -- but we're a college town, so the few bounced cks we've gotten have been from people leaving the area (graduating) with no plans to return. Cards frighten and confuse us, so we just say no.

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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 06-21-2001 01:31 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
ATM mchines would be ok, as long as the demand is there. A bank or financial institution probably would not consider installing them for a limited application.

We had the same thing happen with public phones in the theater. They didn't generate enough usage, so the phone company yanked them out.

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Taplie Coile
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 - posted 06-25-2001 01:41 PM      Profile for Taplie Coile     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just a few thoughts.... We got ATM and Debit card machines about a year ago (problem #1, because for some reason people think"ATM and Debit Cards" means their MasterCard/American Express/Discover card, too, but I digress). We're a 15-screen theater, and they give us 4 machines: 2 for the box office, and 2 for concessions. Box I can deal with, since the 4 ticket printers are right next to each other. We have 8 concession registers, 4 on each side of the lobby (plus 2 in the back where the auditoriums are, but I'm not counting them). 2 machines for 8 registers. Does anyone else see a problem here? And of course, despite the big "ATM and Debit Cards: This Line Only" signs where the machines are, EVERYBODY in EVERY line wants to use them. And then there was the machine company's line: "It only takes 5 seconds to process a transaction." I'm still wondering how I bought that one. It takes 5 seconds just to swipe the card, key in the amount, and ask the patron to enter their PIN number. That takes another 5 seconds. THEN, it might take 5 seconds for the machine to dial up, do whatever it does, approve and print out the receipt. I won't get into the $0.99 fee the company charges the patron on each transaction (they love that) and the fact that, somehow, two of the machines somehow got hooked up to our main phone number instead of the fax line they were supposed to.

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Jason Black
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 - posted 07-02-2001 01:00 AM      Profile for Jason Black   Author's Homepage   Email Jason Black   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Taplie,

You obviously work for Carmike. I'm at the Broadway 16 in Myrtle Beach myself. I hear what you're saying about the ATM/Debit machines. They ARE a PITA from MY experiences, but I have personally seen our theatres do in excess of $4500.00 in ONE day from these machines! Multiply what Carmike gets from each transaction by the total number of times people use the card(s) and you'll see that it is a very viable source of (basically) unearned income for us. Not to mention the covenience issue for our patrons. We are, as some folks forget, there to actually 'serve' our patron base, are we not?

My main gripe with the machines is soley the fact that *said company* GROSSLY OVER-RATED the transaction time associated with ticket purchases. I made it a point to let the DOO know this as he set up the machines in my building. If these are to work as they NEED to, *said company* should be required to pay for the DEDICATED line(s) for the machines that THEY own.

Come to think of it, what do *I* know? I'm only a lowly peon...

Shoot me an email in private if you don't mine.. Jasonwan@sccoast.net


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Steve Scott
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 - posted 07-15-2001 11:04 PM      Profile for Steve Scott   Email Steve Scott   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I guess that I might come around to a sat link hookup
for credit or debit transactions, seeing as we've had some incidents with our ATM (see theater robberies...:rolleyes

I also like the idea of some surcharge profit. (Hey, I am IN this business, aren't I?!)

I've also seen this new, computerized check cashing system, where it sends the account number straight to the customer's bank & cashes the check instantaneously (?).

Has anybody seen/ used this system?

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Timothy Eiler
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 - posted 11-23-2001 08:11 PM      Profile for Timothy Eiler   Author's Homepage   Email Timothy Eiler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In God we trust....... all others pay cash

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Kristin Wahlund
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From: Eagan, MN
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 - posted 11-25-2001 02:38 AM      Profile for Kristin Wahlund   Email Kristin Wahlund   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We take cash, gift certificates, and credit cards at regal. we need the credit cards for the fandango tickets. how does everyone like the fandango tickets, personally i love them, its so fast.

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Kristin Wahlund
Regal Cinemas
Eagan 16, MN

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Steven Pickles
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 - posted 11-25-2001 10:19 AM      Profile for Steven Pickles   Email Steven Pickles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Kristin,

I think there are problems with Fandango.. but it does have its good points. First of all we have ticket retrieval problems from Fandango and 555-TELL as well. This isn't major but it looks poorly on the theatre as if I caused the problem. It certainly becomes a problem when a customer believes they have been charged and no tickets are found. Patrons have also complained about the $0.75 service charge--and while I would like to see this dropped, I'm sure that will not happen. As for convenience it is great since patrons can claim the tickets at the ticket kiosks and do not have to interact with employess or wait in line at all.

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Bob Peticolas
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 - posted 11-25-2001 11:48 AM      Profile for Bob Peticolas   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Peticolas   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We accept cash and checks - no plastic. In the last five years or so that we have been managing the theater, we have recieved maybe one bad check. I think that being a small theater and non-profit film society, people just are not going to go out of their way to stiff us. It's not like writing a hot check to a grocery chain that turns millions of dollars a year and "can afford it".

The regional chain theater up in the mall (twelve screen) has an ATM inside the lobby where you can get twenty dollars for a twenty-one dollar withdrawal. We have ATM's in the villiage around us, so people come to us with lots of twenty dollar bills.

If we were to go plastic, it would have to be on a dedicated line (maybe DSL so we could still talk on the phone), swipe the card, print the reciept, enjoy the show. No signing or pin numbers, that would take way too long. AND, no service charges or rental charges to us. Make the card user pay for the convienence

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