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Heyward Garner
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From: Winston-Salem, NC, USA
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 - posted 02-26-2001 12:43 AM      Profile for Heyward Garner   Email Heyward Garner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ticket prices down here run $4.50 for children, $7.00 for adults. All shows before 6 are $4.50.
Chapter 11 is a major crutch, but I do not believe that is entirely the reason for raising prices. For example: our 12-plex was upgraded to stadium seating 2 years ago. We lost somewhere around 500 seats doing so... That means to cut the same money we were before, we have to have some way to do so.
Also, I believe that another problem is the patron return rate. Granted PLENTY of people are repeat customers, but it is very very very slowly on the decline. Reasons:
1)Theatre was messy.
2)Lousy floor staff (essentially all aspects. I am not speaking for our entire floor staff, just most.)
3)Bad service all the way around.
4)Poor environment (aka messy bathrooms and way too crowded hallways due to the lack of floor staff telling people NOT to stand around right outside the entryway to an auditorium.)
Now unfortunately all of these things, I cannot control. I am very proud of all aspects of my presentations. I do not believe that to be reason for our patrons not to return. I am not too comfortable placing the blame entirely on the floor staff, because even if one of my presentations is 110% perfect, if a patron wants to complain then dammit they will complain. (I think that's just for free tickets though =) )
One other aspect to take into consideration, everything up north is a *HELL* of a lot more expensive than down south. A pack of Camel Lights up there (if you can even find them) cost me over FIVE DOLLARS after tax, when I can get them here for $2.10 including tax...
Apart from the afore mentioned, I am certain that Chapter 11 plays a role, but we cannot go and point fingers in just one place. At my theatre we do our best to run promotions and other gimmicks (matinee bargain, concessions combos etc) to keep the patrons coming back for more.

Ian Price
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Ok, I admit it. I do love statistical lies.

In China a few chains recently halved the ticket price and attendance tripled or better. You can't charge more than the market will bear. I have seen lines around the block at a "dollar house." I have also seen that dollar house close because they couldn't, or chose not to afford even the most rudimentary, basic maintenance.

We haven't been in business since 1970. We signed our lease in the year 2000. We have a bargain Tuesday were all films are $5 and attendance doubles. We have a discount card where you can see any film you like, at any time, for $5.40 if you will only pony up for five admissions at one time. I am not a heartless capitalist. Remember, I can't afford a house in this town. I'm just living in reality.


Gordon McLeod
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Historically in Canada at least the admission to a movie was equal to the real (not legal) minimum wage for an hour
Our legal minimum wage is 6.75 but in fact you can't get anyone for under 10.00 now
addmission prices usually tracked that except now it is $12.00.
When we have had historically much of a increase above the norm attendance has suffered. Especially since they are planning a nother increase

Paul G. Thompson
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Here's something I just picked up:

Cash-strapped theater chain Loews Cineplex Entertainment said last week that it will charge $10 for a movie ticket in Manhattan.

The increase, the first in two years, will boost the price by 50 cents.

The company cited higher real estate and labor costs in Gotham.

In Los Angeles, Loews Cineplex tickets will rise to $9 from $8.75. It remains to be seen which other big theater chains follow suit and whether the extra cash will pull the exhibition biz out of its malaise, which has seen at least six chains file for Chapter 11.

I might add that according to a poll of 6,959 people, 4540 (62.5%) said they would be willing to pay 5 to 7 bucks a ticket. 621 (8.9%) would be willing to pay 8 to 10 bucks a ticket. 36 (.05%) said they would pay 11 to 13 bucks a ticket. 109(1.6%) people would pay any amount, because they love movies. 1,653 (23.8%) would rather watch TV.

I would guess this a random poll, so how accurate it is remains to be seen.


Bill Enos
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It seems to me they have missed 2 things.
1 the box office isn't where the real profit
is.
2 The less the patron drops at the box, the
more they spend at the concession.
Face it, this is not the movie business, it's really the snack food business with movies shown to bring customers to the concession with admission charged to satisfy film distributors. If no admission were charged, food sales would probably go up 300% and profits accordingly.

Charles Everett
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Seems that the $10 ticket hasn't hurt Loews yet as far as packing them in Loews Lincoln Square did better than the AMC Empire and UA Union Square for Pearl Harbor on Memorial Day.

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Joe Schmidt
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There's a carmike dollar house here in Billings, and I drove by it earlier this evening on the way back home after picking up 2 dozen more blank films at Target, and the parking lot was full.

Further affiant sayeth naught.

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Peter Berrett
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 - posted 06-05-2001 05:55 AM      Profile for Peter Berrett   Author's Homepage   Email Peter Berrett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Interestingly here in Australia we have a new trend emerging. I don't know whether this is a worldwide trend or not.

Our cinema chains are now building smaller cinemas (28 recliner seats per theatrette) to cater for a more upmarket crowd. The szeats are more luxurious, the screen wall to wall eg
http://www.biziworks.com.au/sites/BiziGen?ownerID=REA000&docID=40

Obviously the cinemas charge more for these privileges. I have yet to spoil myself but I hope to sample what the various cinemas have on offer over the next few months.

I like the concept. I just hope that they have sessions that are reasonably priced.

cheers Peter

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Charles Everett
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Landmark opened its Sunshine Cinemas in NYC last Xmas with a $10 adult ticket.

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Paul Cassidy
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Prices vary in NZ depending on the day you view and the time of day ,$10 to $11 and with the New Luxury small cinemas with hostess service about $25 ,then Monday & Tues can be $7 all Day and some charge Matinee before 5pm , so you need to shop around ,but I only go to the BEST presentation no matter the cost, when I was in Hawaii I was supprised at the cost of the Matinee $4.25 WOW I'd go to the movies every day (Dole Cannery 18)

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David Stambaugh
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Looking at pricing on advance tickets for "Lilo and Stitch", The El Capitan's general admission is $14. They also have $24 tickets, which gets you no waiting in line, reserved "best seat in the house", popcorn, and a drink. Apparently they let these ticket holders in ahead of everyone else. Kind of like how first-class ticket holders get to board the plane first.


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Paul Linfesty
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Their reserved section seats are gold and the "regular" seats are green, although there is no conmfort difference between them. Usually they will have some special attraction (i.e.- stage show, mini-amusement park next door or in back) as an added attraction when they charge those kind of prices. Also, a live organist performs on the mighty Wurlitzer.


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Will Kutler
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I do think that there are many sides to the coin.

In the 1950s, several wide screen formats, 3-D and other goodies were developed to lure people back into the theater and away from the new "wonder", television.

So how do we now lure people back into the theater?

1) EXCELLENT! EXCELLENT!! EXCELLENT!!! presentation with the booth being run by craftspeople at an approperiate salary! But on the other hand, if an organization such as IATSE were to come back into promenance, then they have to change their ways and quit the negative behavior that got them into trouble in the first place! Furthermore, labor unions and trade organizations are the way to go for apprentiship training!

When Cineplex came to Tucson, they are the ones who first started to dismiss the union projectionists. There were many stories in our local newspapers/news media about this. In any case, the big shots with Cineplex were quoted at the time as saying that since booths are totally automated, it only takes a concession stand kid 30 seconds to thread up a machine which does not need to be attended to!

Tear down some of these multi plexes and rebuild some of the origonal big single and two screen theaters with 70mm capability!

Too many of todays films are horrible..badly recycled plots, bad script writing, so so acting that relies too much on technology! And yet todays films cost millions! Hell, can you really compare Pearl Harbor against TORA,TORA, TORA!?

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David Favel
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Hell yes I can compare.
Tora was an average movie that had limited sucess at the box office.
From memory $15 million.

Pearl Harbor was an average film that pulled in $75 million on it's first weekend.

Don't forget that no matter how good a movie is, if no one comes to see it you have empty screens for a week.

For me it's an easy way to go broke.

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Will Kutler
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What I am getting at is Tora, Tora, Tora along with Midway and some others were for the most part HISTORICALLY ACCURATE films which is more than what can be said of Pearl Harbor!

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