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Darryl Spicer
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 - posted 03-17-2001 11:49 PM      Profile for Darryl Spicer     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The individual letters may be the cheapest but take the longest to put up on thursday nights. I used to work for a ten screen that used the individual letters and it could take 45 minutes to change all the signs above the doors. I like mylars the best. You can get full sized mylars and you can get half sized mylars for when you have to films playing in the same auditorium. It only takes a few minutes to change these. The look of them when done right is far mor apealing. I realy do not like the L.E.D. ones because I find them hard to read.

James R. Hammonds, Jr
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 - posted 03-18-2001 03:45 AM      Profile for James R. Hammonds, Jr   Email James R. Hammonds, Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
you know the best thing about mylar displays?
being able to snatch them when you lost the show!!!
but i havent been able to do that in quite a qhile, cause i left the theatre i worked for that used them in january 98.

you cant take the led marquee home with you as easy, and if you did, it wouldnt look as cool on your bedroom wall.
but if you do work at a theatre that doesnt have them computerized and they have to set them manually, you can do cool stuff like changing the names of movies like WHAT WOMEN WANT: THE JAMES HAMMONDS STORY.

my old theatre also had one that just said the names of the movies that were down that hallway, with others over the individual doors.
i changed the one over the hall to read the names of fake movie titles that i stole from movies and tv shows. it said CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS IN TROUBLE, CLEOPATRA SCHWARTZ, SHAKESPEARE IN HEAT, GHANDI II, MALCOLM XI, and i dont remember what else.

Jesse Skeen
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 - posted 03-19-2001 04:42 AM      Profile for Jesse Skeen   Email Jesse Skeen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ha ha, I've always wanted to put up a 'joke' marquee but never had the opportunity (without getting in trouble at least!) Most signs that go right outside the auditoriums are too small to fit complete titles though so you'd get something like "GIRLS" or "SCHWARTZ" though. As for the LED signs, ever see the beginning of "Maximum Overdrive"?
I've always thought it's a bad idea to put the show-times right outside the auditoriums for one reason- if someone's leaving after one movie, they can tell right away if another movie's starting and sneak in. I think the mylars make the other movies look appealing enough to sneak into, too.

Sean Weitzel
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 - posted 03-19-2001 04:54 PM      Profile for Sean Weitzel   Email Sean Weitzel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Aaron:

What sixplex in San Jose? AMC Oakridge?

-sean

Aaron Sisemore
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 - posted 03-20-2001 01:40 AM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
>>What sixplex in San Jose? AMC Oakridge?<<

Meridian Quad 6. (If you all find it funny that a sixplex is called 'quad',it's because Blumenfeld added two more screens to the original 4-plex and decided to keep the name.) Had to be one of the uglier plexes with the HUGE numbers in the first 4 auditoria (reversed on the left side, even) I think Scott [Neff] has pics of the place somewhere.

Aaron

Tod J. Weitzel
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Speaking of Fun With Marquees:

When I did my time at Hollywood Video, I somehow landed the job of updating the signage every couple of weeks.* One week I found a particular poster to be hung and knew exactly where to put it.

The marquee it went in was right underneath our large "HOLLYWOOD VIDEO" sign... the poster:

BURN HOLLYWOOD BURN

I still kick myself for not getting a picture of it in the two weeks it was up.

-Tw?

*Outside signage is fun: you're supposed to get up on a ladder and wet down the whole window with a sponge to make the vinyl stay up, but that was a bit messy. So eventually someone ran across the street to the Target and bought one of those giant Super Soakers. Outside signage went from a 30 minute task to 10 minutes.

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Mike Spaeth
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 - posted 03-21-2001 05:08 AM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Definitely mylars. They give the theater personality, not the same old look as everything else.

Ian - you're paying $15-20/mylar???

I get mine for $3.25 (5x25) + shipping.

Jason Burroughs
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I've always prefered the look of the mylar title arts, they are easy to maintain, and are easy to change out. In a large multiplex I can see a valid application of LED displays, as the number of title arts would get overwhelming.

As for outdoor maquees, the Wagner-Zip type letters are very common, but they are often difficult to change, sometimes dangerous as prevously stated, letters inevitably get broken, words truncated or mispelled, and they are absolutly no fun to change in bad weather. Also the flourescent tubes have to be periodiclly changed out depending on the hours that the marquee is lit. Nothing lasts forever.

With outdoor LED displays I've found that they are often neglected, and poorly maintained. 99% of theatre operators won't spend a dime unless they absolutly have to.

William Bunch
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 - posted 01-12-2002 02:51 AM      Profile for William Bunch   Author's Homepage   Email William Bunch   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I need some help. We need to find outdoor type LED panels that we can set up in strips to mimic a typical marquee. Chasing, flashing and animation are not required. I'm thinking 8 inch high letters, single color. The space for the marquee is about 16 feet wide by about 6 feet tall but that could be worked without much problem.

We are a military theater at a northern base in Japan. The weather here is almost never perfect and the winters are long. We are presently using the Bevelite slide-in lettering system. But they stick in the ice and snow and in the spring duststorms the silk screen markings are abraded off.

I have researched the WWW and there are many firms that provide LED signboards but they seem to all either be the very small, like in the lobby type or the overly huge type like you see in Vegas or along the highway. Nothing in between. Surely somebody makes something like this. We can get these here in Japan but we would have to pay two arms and two legs for it. Our budget is not limitless.

Can anybody out there point me towards a company that could satisfy our requirement? Sure would appreciate it.

Thanks a Bunch
Bill Bunch
Misawa, Japan

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Jerry Chase
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 - posted 01-12-2002 10:30 AM      Profile for Jerry Chase   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I suspect you are going to find the cost prohibitive.

Trans-Lux services a lot of the industry.
Electromedia might be another possibility. I'm sure there are others.

Have you considered making weather shields? These are clear plastic panels hinged above the line of letters that normally are about an inch in front of the marquee. When changing the marquee, the catches are released and the sections lift up. The size of the panels can't be too large or they act like sails in the wind, and there must be a positive method of securing them at the bottom.

The idea might not fit your situation, but I remember wanting to do something similar on a couple of marquees where windblown snow got into the BEV-AD tracks and froze the letters to the tracks.



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William Bunch
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Thanks, Jerry. I have always found plenty of sites with these products but they all offered really huge or really tiny signs. Many never returned my emails. I contacted Trans-Lux and hope they return with some good info. Looks like they might have what we are looking for. And they do business with the military/govt on a regular basis. Got my fingers crossed on the price but it must be cheaper than the local Japanese price. This is the last block to fill on my latest theater upgrade.

Bill Bunch
Misawa, Japan

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