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Don Sneed
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 - posted 11-20-2001 03:46 PM      Profile for Don Sneed   Author's Homepage   Email Don Sneed   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was just in Guam, and the theatre I service there had Harry Potter on four screens & was selling out every show, I haven't seen that long of lines since "Jaws", well maybe Star wars....

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Mike Heenan
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Holy crap! Smokey and the Bandit at #53 of top money makers? John Wilson, did you hear that! HA ha haaaaaaaaa!

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Dave Bird
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 - posted 11-21-2001 06:20 PM      Profile for Dave Bird   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Bird   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Boy, y'all weren't kidding about just how W I D E a release this film
was. About an hour away from me is a theatre that I believe was actually closed for many years and has just recentlyundergone some restoration for live summer theatre and OCCASIONAL films (weekends only usually months after the drive-in gets the film). Anyway, there they are, day and date, seven days a week. I imagine it's been DECADES since this has happened. Oh yeah, Regent Theatre, Picton Ont.

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 11-23-2001 06:51 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John -

Surprisingly we've had very few "dropped off" kids. A lot of families coming together, and I've had quite a few adults tell me they liked the movie better than they thought they would.


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Charles Everett
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 - posted 11-25-2001 12:13 PM      Profile for Charles Everett   Email Charles Everett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
First weekend was a typical stretch -- $93.5M estimated, $90.29M actual. Second weekend is at least a 40 percent drop to $53.55M estimated.

The real story? At the AMC Hamilton 24 yesterday Harry Potter had only 1 sellout -- the 4:30 show. That was in a superlarge hall that didn't fill up till the last moment. Where did everyone go? Spy Game had 3 sellouts (medium-large hall). Monsters Inc. had at least 3 sellouts (medium-large hall). Heist had 1 sellout (small hall). Even the 4:45 round of Amelie sold out (small hall).

All that hype is making Harry Potter burn out fast!


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Mike Blakesley
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Interesting thing... comparing this time period to last year's similar period... So far, "Harry Potter" has almost exactly mirrored "The Grinch" ticket sales in terms of "up and down" from one day to the next. Only one exception...our Thursday last week was lower than Wednesday, whereas during Grinch, the corresponding Thursday was up from Wednesday. Other than that, though, the up'n'down grosses pattern has been exactly the same.

Overall, however, Potter is not doing Grinch-sized numbers for us. A more limited audience, no doubt (although I'm still surprised at the number of adults who are showing up).

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Daniel Boisson
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the opening weekend for us sucked. it did really good, but not what everyone was expecting, i think only 1 sell out show. the next weekend, it was selling out right and left. monsters inc was selling out almost as well also. our theatre owner did really well overall though. now's when i start asking for new stuff.

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Charles Everett
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Harry Potter 2 breaks records for hype but not for box office. WB estimates an $87.69 million opening. That number is sure to be revised -- the first Harry Potter was $93.5M estimated and $90.29M actual for its first weekend.

The AMC Essex Green 9 is running only 2 prints since that theater has pretty large halls. Even with a nor'easter and a flood watch yesterday the Essex Green 9 sold out the 2:30, 3:30, 6:15 and 7:00 shows. The 6:15 and 7:00 rounds were sold out before I got there for the 5:00 show of The Ring.

To make things worse, New Jersey papers have glowing stories about kids playing hooky from school to see Harry Potter 2 on a Friday morning show the first day. WTF are the school boards?

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Paul Linfesty
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quote:
Notice the take for Gone with the Wind is still #1, coming in at over $1 billion in today's money. Beat that, Harry Potter!

I've always been dubious of these "adjusted for inflation" lists. While GWTW may very well work out to be a top grosser, it's tickets, even in smaller towns, were at much higher prices than the normal film. As a matter of fact, many of these films on this list were sold at higher prices, even outside of their reserved seat engagements. Theatres were charging different rates for ifferent films well into the 70's. Today there's more of an equalizer, since Harry Potter will be the same price as every other attraction in the same megaplex.

Actual number of tickets sold would be a much better system for a true ocunt, but even then, shouldn't one take into account the avaiolable population at a given time?


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Jacob Huber
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For the last HP, we had 5 prints which pretty much sold all out over opening weekend, but then dwindled dramatically after that. This year, we again have 5 prints, with only Friday doing any real business. On Saturday, we had one or two sell-outs for HP, and those were the 3ish shows. I believe there were only about 40 people in the 10:20 showing. I was remarking to one of my fellow employees about this late showing turnout, saying "Harry Potter died fast", to which a few little girls walking by began yelling "Are you serious! How could you ruin the end for us!" Pretty funny.
On the other hand, our late 8 Miles both sold out (9:40 and 10:10), the 10:10 being in a theatre of comparable size to our HP's. The Ring also sold out twice, but in a much smaller theatre (150ish compared to 250 for HP). This over saturation for HP does nothing to help numbers, since there is a very skewed product/turnout ratio, especially the later shows.

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Mike Spaeth
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Last year, with the first Harry Potter, the St. Peter Cinema 5 in St. Peter, MN was charging the $5.99 adult evening price for all shows, adults and children. This year, they're using their normal $3.99 matinee/child, $5.99 adult evening pricing schedule.

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Darryl Spicer
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HOLLYWOOD (Box Office Mojo) - 'Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets' proved more potent than previously imagined, pulling in $87.7 million in its opening weekend according to estimates issued by Warner Bros. The picture jumped from $29.6 million on Friday to $33.6 million Saturday -- a 13.4% boost compared to to the 3.6% uptick the first 'Potter' saw on its comparable day. Warner Bros. is projecting a 27% dip on Sunday to $24.5 million, which is equal to the first 'Potter.'

'Chamber of Secrets' is playing at a whopping 8,500 screens at 3,682 theaters, the widest opening release ever. The previous record holder was 'Sorcerer's Stone' at 8,119 screens at 3,672 theaters from which it bowed to $90.3 million. That 'Chamber of Secrets' debuted to slightly less is truly phenomenal given the trend of family sequels to have significantly lower starts. Warner Bros. was expecting an opening in the mid-$70 million range going into the weekend.

'Chamber of Secrets' garnered an A+ from moviegoers according to CinemaScore, which tracks opening night audience reaction. By comparison, 'Sorcerer's Stone' earned an A. Warner Bros.' exit polling on 'Chamber of Secrets' has 91% of moviegoers rating the picture either "excellent" or "very good." Parents and their children made up 50% of the audience, while 60% of moviegoers were under the age of 15. Gender-wise, the audience was pretty much equally split, only slightly skewing female. In all, 'Chamber of Secrets' was a near identical demographic clone of 'Sorcerer's Stone.'

Adding to the impressiveness of 'Chamber of Secrets' bow was the lack of the sheer media frenzy the first picture generated. Warner Bros., though, spent more on marketing than last time -- north of $40 million. The production budget reportedly came in at $100 million, but there is no studio confirmation of this yet. The first movie cost $125 million and grossed nearly $970 million worldwide ($317.6 million domestically alone).

For the full list of studio estimates, check out the weekend chart: here

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Jennifer Osborne
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Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets at Showplace 12 in Columbus IN

5 prints, showing on Friday from 2:30 to 10:30
Showing on Sat & Sun from 10:30 to 10:30

That's roughly 50 shows this weekend (give or take a couple)

Every show sold out except the 230 show on Friday and the 1030 show on Sunday. . . we're already selling tickets for next weekend. . . Welcome to the mid west Harry Potter.

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Christopher Duvall
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The final number I pulled up for the 3 day weekend is now $87.7 million. That puts it roughly $3 million short of the first movie. I guess I win that Coke I bet that it would not beat $100 million mark. [Wink]

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Martin Brooks
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quote:
As far as records go...it should be strictly ticket sales not $$$ amount. The big dollar amount is a factor of ticket prices in addition to sales. But with ticket inflation, current films always get an edge over older films.
That's why Variety used to post all-time movie rentals either by decade or adjusted for inflation.

Someone else posted that they didn't think even inflation-adjusted listings were valid because some films used to play at inflated prices, but I think that's fair. You can charge what the market will bear and if a film can be priced higher (even if it's not done today), it deserves the credit for that extra revenue.

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