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Topic: Star Wars: Episode 2
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Kelsey Black
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From: Pima, Arizona, USA
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted 04-22-2002 03:44 AM
As a General Manager and a Projectionist concerned with giving the best quality presentation possible, digital projection definately has it's appealing qualities. However, at this point in the game, the financial aspect of it is prohibitive. Also, I have seen demos of digital projection before, and until I can get AT LEAST 4k x 2k resolution, I'm not interested. Also, I haven't seen a demo that was on a screen larger than 15' wide, so I'll probably have to bump my figure up when I see something in a closer to real-life situation. Other things that keep me from being TOO interested in digital projection: data compression, total cost of ownership, life-cycle duration, and obsolescence.Now for my 2 cents regarding Episode 2: for the time being, but possibly changing, I am on Fox's low grossing list. Therefore, it is impossible for me to get EP2 on release. Myself and my film booker were speaking tonight, and neither of us could remember off the top of our heads for certain when EP1 was made available to low grossers... anyone know? Anyone know, or have a reasonable guesstimate of when to expect EP2 in my greedy little fingers (as well as other low-grossers)? Maybe if EP2 is made in a super-wide release, the gap might not be so painfully long. Hmm, I wonder if George is concerned enough with presentation quality to give me a new print, rather than the most damaged one (first to go) from the StuporPlex that got 5 prints on release. ah, but I can dream, can't I?
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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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posted 04-22-2002 05:08 PM
Christopher Duvall said: "This is why Lucas is an advocate of digital cinema even though the technology is not ready for prime time yet. There seems to be no pride anymore."  IMHO, "Film Done Right" is far superior to today's digital cinema systems for image quality. Unfortunately, there's enough "film done wrong" to make digital cinema seem better in some cases. I'm not encouraged, because I've seen plenty of "digital done wrong" already too.  ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Ian Price
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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 04-22-2002 06:07 PM
I believe that Lucas did Star Wars all in digital for a few reasons.1. Since the film has so many Computer Generated effects, like almost all the backgrounds, why not shoot the actors in digital to facilitate integrating the images. 2. Using digital for the live action is less expensive than film only in the respect of skipping a step to integrate with the C.G. 3. As long as the film is produced and edited digitally, then why not present it in that way as well, if you are able. I am sure if you were to ask him, he would say that digital production has it's place but that it is not the ultimate replacement for film. I am also pretty certain that if he were to direct a live action film that didn't require any C.G. that he would consider using film. This is all speculation on my part. Remember, this is a man who loves film. And it's his party he can shoot in Pixel Vision if he wants to. In my experience, movies produced digitally look very good presented digitally. And while movies that are produced on film and presented digitally usually loose a lot in the translation, they still look ok as long as you aren’t too close and comparing it to the original film. So I am sure that Attack of the Clones will look great on film and digital. I also believe that jumping whole hog in to digital production would be a very bad thing. I am also not in a great big rush to purchase a digital projector. My 1960 era Simplex projectors are running quite well, thank you. 
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John Pytlak
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posted 04-26-2002 01:18 PM
Michael Barry said: "Sure, it would have cost more to scan those images into a computer, etc, but if it can be done for IMAX resolution then 70MM quality output shouldn't be a problem."Agreed. Nothing wrong with "Digital Done Right". I'm really looking forward to "Stuart Little 2", which reportedly uses 4K for scanning the original 35mm film (mostly Kodak VISION Expression 500T Color Negative Film 5284), and 4K for recording back out onto film. Likewise, the digital reformatting of "Beauty and the Beast" looks very good on a huge 70mm IMAX screen. With today's sharp color negative films and high resolution "digital intermediate", Kodak's Dr. Roger Morton has shown that today's 35mm color negative film will be able to match the quality of 65mm negative film printed to 70mm prints: http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/students/onCampus/oct2001/dfm.shtml ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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John Pytlak
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posted 04-29-2002 02:57 PM
Bobby Henderson said: "why not use that new super-duper emulsion on 65mm film negative stock? Why not produce in 65mm?"I agree that the ultimate quality will use 65mm negative --- to paraphrase the ads for "Godzilla", "Size DOES matter!".  But Kodak's work in this area gives great promise of significant increases in the quality of images originated on 35mm film, because 35mm film already can support such high resolution digital enhancement. BTW, ironically, "Godzilla" used the smaller image area of Super-35 rather than anamorphic origination, and it showed on the screen: http://us.imdb.com/Technical?0120685 ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: <A HREF="http://www.kodak.com/go/motion" TARGET=_blank>http://www.kodak.com/go/motion</A>
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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-03-2002 01:32 AM
I just got back from the exhibitor's screening of Send in the Clones as well. It was at the AMC Van Ness 1000 in San Francisco. It was on Film as well. We enjoyed seeing it, but... It appeared grainy at the beginning and the colors seemed off like the print wasn't perfectly color timed. We noticed one lab splice. I thought the writing and acting were sub-par. The Action scenes (what few there were) were fantastic. The imagery was great. The alien characters were wonderful. The spaceships were cool. It dragged in the middle. My butt hurt towards the end. All in all it was the greatest achievement in animated motion pictures I have ever seen. 
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