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Jesse Skeen
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From: Sacramento, CA
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 - posted 06-17-2002 03:44 PM      Profile for Jesse Skeen   Email Jesse Skeen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Common sense SHOULD say that if anything is affecting the picture onscreen, SOMETHING should be done to fix it! If the laws say an Exit sign has to be there, but if it is shining on the screen, there should be some way to comply with the law but not have it affect the picture. I haven't heard of any laws around here requiring a certain brightness or anything; a place I used to work at has those "nuclear" Exit signs which are very dim, I liked those the best- the theater I was at yesterday seemed to have these in BACK of the theater but the LED's in front! (BTW, an exit BEHIND the screen? Don't they have problems with people trying to take the speakers out with them? )
How would anyone running a theater NOT notice something like this though? This might be a case of paying attention to keeping the lobby nice and clean but not even setting foot in the auditoriums (I know there are some managers like that out there!)


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John Pytlak
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 - posted 06-17-2002 03:57 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Remember, in an emergency, the audience may need to see the EXIT signs through smoke and in a panic. NEVER compromise safety.

But a sign at the front of the auditorium can usually be baffled to not shine on the screen, and yet be clearly and fully visible to lead the audience to safety.

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David Favel
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 - posted 06-17-2002 06:11 PM      Profile for David Favel   Email David Favel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I use 15 watt bulbs near the front & throw a piece of lighting gel on the side nearest the screen. Works well

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
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 - posted 06-17-2002 08:51 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I take a more cold approach...if you don't know how to fasten a seat belt or can't find your way out in a fire without a bright exit sign...it's time to thin the herd.

Steve

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Gerard S. Cohen
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From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
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 - posted 06-17-2002 09:01 PM      Profile for Gerard S. Cohen   Email Gerard S. Cohen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've found that ushers replacing burned-out EXIT sign bulbs often
used bulbs with much higher wattage than required, simply because
they were in the stockroom. Those old metal boxes were a pain to
service, requiring ladder, screwdriver and flashlight. To reduce
the frequency of service, I recommended using 135V bulbs in
a 110V-125V line. That way they burn dimmer but many times longer.
Also, cleaning the glass of decades of dust and grime increases the visibility with dimmer bulbs.

The remarkable thing is how often nobody reported (or even noticed?)
unlit signs or missing fire extinguishers. Since they were visible
from the booth, it usually fell to the projectionist to inform the
manager in time to save the theatre from violation citations when
next the inspector called.


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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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From: Hollywood, CA USA
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 - posted 06-17-2002 10:15 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Altering "safety" devices and/or dictated codes is an invitation to a lawsuit. Publicly announcing such alteration is not only making the individual and theater liable, but just plain stupid! Me thinks some people need to edit their posts.....

>>> Phil


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Kris Brunton
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From: Napanee, Ontario, Canada
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 - posted 06-18-2002 09:56 AM      Profile for Kris Brunton   Email Kris Brunton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In some municipalities we were able to have a thin black shield placed between the exit sign and the screen. This helped to keep the light off the screen. We were in no way allowed to change intensity or alter position of the lights due to fire regulations. The shield attached to the wall beside the exit sign.

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Jesse Skeen
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I was sent 2 passes and a note saying they are "looking into solving this problem", so we'll see what happens!

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Craig Hanham
Film Handler

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From: Wellington, New Zealand
Registered: Oct 2001


 - posted 07-03-2002 12:53 AM      Profile for Craig Hanham   Email Craig Hanham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
as david said. Use low wattage bulbs and lighting gel. If there is a problem with spill onto screen use a peice of aluminium foil to make a mask.
Thats my easy fix.

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