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Brad Miller
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posted 07-01-2002 10:00 PM

Bob, that sounds like a question for Karen. You could get an older disc that has the Simpsons audio track on it (a R14 from a feature disc) and burn your own disc, but that would tie up your third cdrom drive in the player. What's more important, playing the THX logo in digital or the trailers?

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Bob Brown
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posted 07-02-2002 08:21 AM

Well, thats a no brainer....the trailers will come first. I was just wondering. I just got our theatre set up with the trailer discs, and I am working with our corp. office to get the rest of the circuit up and running with them. We have over 100 screens in the circuit and I hear going to be adding more. BTW, my flat Simpsons is defective, it ran totally out of focus.

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Brad Miller
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posted 07-02-2002 02:47 PM

Did you try to focus it, or just noticed it played through with a different focus setting? Odds are the print is on acetate base stock and/or has been wound for so long on those tiny cores that it will take a few days of running (maybe longer) to let it relax.

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Adam Martin
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posted 07-02-2002 03:04 PM

I was in the auditorium watching, and the trailer was out of focus right away and got worse and worse as it went along, and got very shaky too. Probably an acetate one that's been sitting on a shelf for a while. I think we'll pull it off and wind it on a larger core for a few days to try and straighten it out a little. I hope with The Simpsons back in inventory we'll see some on polyester, though.

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Brad Miller
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posted 07-02-2002 03:11 PM

Wind it backwards, so that whichever way the center of the film is protruding from the curl, that side is against the core. That will speed things up.

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John Pytlak
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posted 07-03-2002 09:41 AM

"Core Set" is a real issue for film that has been wound on a small core for a long time. The film takes the shape of a "clockspring", and will take awhile to relax. I agree with Brad that winding the film with the opposite orientation will help. IMHO, trailers should never be wound on a core/hub smaller than 3-inches (75mm) in diameter.

Don't forget that there is a slight focus shift between old triacetate prints (base thickness 0.0056 inches) and current ESTAR base prints (base thickness 0.0047 inches).

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 07-07-2002 04:21 PM

My favorite THX trailer is "Cimarron," but I really wish there was a quad format version of it. I think it sucks that you can only order new copies of that trailer in either SR optical or Dolby Digital. If anyone from THX is reading, please make a quad format version of it soon! And while they're at it, how about a version of it for the "THX Digital Mastering" snipes on DVD? I'm sick of seeing "Broadway" used over and over for that one.

For awhile, the "Grand" trailer was available only in DTS, but THX did go to the trouble of making a Dolby Digital version of it a few years ago.

To answer the question, "is there a quiet THX trailer," I guess the choice for that would be "Broadway" even though it is not totally quiet. That one sounds pretty beefy in DTS.

I downloaded a bunch of .VOB files of all those THX trailers and even the THX "Jungle Sounds" audio only thingie from some French internet site a couple years ago. Since THX is dragging their feet on coming up with a good promotional DVD like what DTS and Dolby have already been doing, I may just make my own DVD of all that stuff whenever I buy a DVD-RW drive.

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Justin McLeod
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posted 07-08-2002 05:17 PM

I have only heard the GRAND trailer in DTS. I would be afraid to hear it in anything else. The GRAND is my favorite, it was the first THX I had ever seen/heard. Cimmaron is my second favorite choice.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 07-13-2002 10:46 PM

I got a little THX trailers DVD with my "THX certified Dell PC". There's four trailers on it ("Broadway," "Grand," "Tex" and "Tex 2: Moo Can"). The titles on the trailers are modified to include the Dell brand.

The "Grand" trailer is incredibly loud and sends out a real powerful sub bass signal when the THX logo drops down into view. That trailer was first introduced in 1993 around when "Jurassic Park" was released. I was really blown away by it when I saw "JP" for the first time at the Northpark #1 in Dallas.

I really wish THX would make more trailers in the vein of "Cimarron" and "Grand." For the time being, I guess I just have to hope "Cimarron" gets a Quad Format print redo and maybe Lucasfilm will wake up and incorporate it into the "THX Digital Mastering" thing for DVD. I remember some THX certified Laserdiscs carrying the Cimarron trailer.

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Justin McLeod
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posted 07-15-2002 02:50 PM

I have 3 or 4 lazer disc's with a cut version of the cimmarron . They only show the very end of the trailer Where the THX logo is in this vast red looking space and the logo goes through you.

I saw "THE GRAND" at the Penn Square mall cinema back in summer of 94 when the cinema was a GCC. Talk about bass!! The bass was so tight and so powerfull it seemed like my stomach was tying itself in a not. You couldnt here your own self talk, but the sound was never deffoning. The Detail in the trailer is very amazing to. Im really hoping for a home DTS version of the trailer thats faithfull to the cinema version.

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Adam Wilbert
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posted 07-15-2002 10:46 PM

They have that cropped version of Cimmaron at the end of the Lucasfilm WOW promo film.

our auditorium doors were on automatic closers that were cued with the 'lights down' cue, which was placed just before the THX trailer. If you had the port window open when the THX trailer hit, you got blasted in the face by a rush of wind as the doors closed in the auditorium. It was a real kick to have that happen while hearing the THX logo sound. A real life version of that Simpsons trailer.

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Timothy Eiler
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posted 07-23-2002 06:48 PM

if you really want some THX trailers. Then play some film sub run. I play both subrun and on the break. On the subrun ones this summer i have gotten 1 flat and 1 scope Thx trailer of the begining of the feature. also 1 carmike and regal policy trailers.I would like to thank whoever left it on.

tim

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Josh Jones
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posted 07-29-2002 11:05 PM

Hey Tim

Hows the drive-in doing and how many screens are you up to now?

Josh

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 08-01-2002 09:55 PM

I just picked up the new "Speed" Five Star Collection edition. This is the first "THX Digital Mastered" title I've seen using the THX "Grand" trailer for the intro.

Now if they can just get "Cimarron" put together...

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Ron Lacheur
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posted 08-02-2002 01:26 AM

the new Speed 2 disc has the " Tex Moo Can " trailer on it.

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