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Dustin Mitchell
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 - posted 10-11-2002 03:10 PM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, it is worth noting that this is probably being re-booked with a generous house allowance. Not sure if I'm using the right terms here, but Sony might be paying theatres an initial flat fee to play the picture. This wouldn't make a lot of ssnse at first since likely Sony will lose money on every print, but since the house allowance won't effect the movies gross, it fits in with the video rental theory.

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Mike Spaeth
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 - posted 10-11-2002 04:36 PM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Frank -

It's not a matter of the studios forcing anyone to do anything. It's a matter of an exhibitor doing a studio a favor. Who doesn't have something right now that you can't at least drop the first matinee show on ... cause you know that print of Ballistic just HAS to hold clean this week.

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Charles Everett
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 - posted 10-11-2002 04:44 PM      Profile for Charles Everett   Email Charles Everett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You can thank Miramax for The Master of Disguise coming back. Miramax wisely decided on a limited release for Pokemon 4Ever. A lot of theaters that would have played Pokemon got MofD instead.

Mike S: You forgot another great Sony release of this summer . . . xXx


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Carl Martin
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 - posted 10-13-2002 04:22 AM      Profile for Carl Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Carl Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
my theater has one show of master of disguise friday
through sunday. so far, 2/3 of the way through its
run here exactly 0 people have paid to see it. one
person, me, has sat through it for free. and boy do
i feel ripped off. i can't think of a worse movie
all year, and i see about 500 films a year.

carl

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Bill Gabel
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 - posted 10-14-2002 03:28 PM      Profile for Bill Gabel   Email Bill Gabel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This last weekend the totals for "Master of Disguise".
They added 626 screens for a total of 846 screens.
They added $217,517 for a total of $39,751,057. Looks like
you guys need to get the old marquee letters out.
HELD OVER FOR SECOND EXCITING WEEK.

The per screen average was $257.00


The production budget for this picture was reported at 16 Million.
The estimated marketing cost for this picture was reported at 32 Million dollars.


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Michael Brown
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 - posted 10-14-2002 06:03 PM      Profile for Michael Brown   Email Michael Brown   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
And I'n the UK we haven't had the first release of 'Master of Disguise' yet! Unless it's gone straight to video like 'Kung Pow :Enter The Fist'.

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Paul Rich
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 - posted 10-14-2002 10:53 PM      Profile for Paul Rich   Email Paul Rich   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We got it Friday (after having dropped it the previous week, what a waste) and we're losing it again this Thursday. May it be the final time.

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Michael Gonzalez
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 - posted 10-15-2002 01:39 PM      Profile for Michael Gonzalez   Email Michael Gonzalez   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yea we are actually dropping it after this week also. We have had a total of 4 people show up for it. Considering how close they are to 40 Million, don't be surprise if they break that on Thursday when some theater suspiciously close to Sony's corprate offices mysteriously sells out every show on Thursday. That way they can charge their premium for the video release.


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Bill Gabel
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 - posted 10-21-2002 08:30 PM      Profile for Bill Gabel   Email Bill Gabel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This last weekend the totals for "Master of Disguise"
They lost 742 theatres for a total of 104 screens. (-83%)
They added $36,973 for a total of $39,867,996.00

The per screen average was $355


This thing is never going to hit 40 million.

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Mike Spaeth
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 - posted 10-21-2002 09:08 PM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ah yes it will - national subrun date 10/25. This thing will probably chalk up $500,000 at least subrun, if not closer to $1,000,000.

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Thomas Procyk
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 - posted 10-23-2002 11:42 AM      Profile for Thomas Procyk   Email Thomas Procyk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That is something I never really quite understood. Why, if studios are so keen on reaching such a close mark in regards to box office money, do they re-release their crappy movies BACK to first-runs instead of just moving on to sub-runs where they would probably make more money? I would more strongly consider seeing "Master Of Disguise" for $2.50 than $8.00.

Even with really big movies like "Spiderman" they should just move on to sub-run. There comes a point where even the biggest blockbuster (with some exceptions, of course) is not worth the money per ticket that the first-runs charge. Either that, or don't pull them from the first-runs in the first place.

Rant over.
=TMP=

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David Stambaugh
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 - posted 10-23-2002 11:55 AM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Slightly O/T, but there was an interesting booking scenario here with Spiderman recently. The MIB2/Spiderman double-feature was playing at first-run Cinemark 17, while Spiderman played simultaneously at Cinemark Movies 12, a $1.50 theater on the opposite side of the same mall.


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Mike Spaeth
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 - posted 10-28-2002 10:28 PM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Through Sunday, October 27, 2002:

$40,032,054

Pulled in $159,727 from 226 venues this weekend ($707/venue).

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