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David Stambaugh
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When I was buying tickets for I Spy yesterday at a Regal, a couple teenagers in front of me were trying to get into Jackass. The cashier would not sell them tickets because they couldn't prove their age. Yay Regal (I guess).

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Mark J. Marshall
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We are doing our best to turn away underaged folks for this movie in particular. We try to do it anyway, but we're paying particular attention to this one because of the potential rowdiness factor.

That's part of the reason why "The Ring" did so well at our theater (and probably others) during weeks 2 & 3 of its release. Does anyone know if 8 Mile is rated R? If it is, The Ring will probably keep doing kick-ass business for us next week! ;-)

By the way, we frequently end up in heated arguments with parents who want to just drop off their eight kids and leave. They even go to the extent to buy a ticket, walk in, sit with them for about ten minutes, then leave. I can't tell you how many kids have been wandering aimlessly around our lobby for two hours these last two weekends because we pulled them out of the movie after their parents sneaked out and drove away. We refund the kids' money, but not the parents. They're probably too embarassed to come back in and ask for it, and the movie is over by the time they get back anyway. At least we get their popcorn money and lots of quarters in our arcade games. ;-)


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Jonathan M. Crist
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8 Mile is Rated R and (once again) being marketed directly to the 14 to 16 years olds. In many ways Hollywood is like the tobacco industry - marketing to teens a product that they arenot allowed to have. And like store owners, theatres are caught in the middle.

Has anyone seen the latest NATO newsletter which is critical of theatres for their lax enforcement of the ratings system?

And Univesal has Empire coming up soon as well!

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Mark J. Marshall
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It is very difficult sometimes for us. Take last night for example (election day eve). Lots of kids have off from school today, so we got crushed significantly more than we expected. We just didn't have the staff to put at the doors of the auditoriums. I personally kicked out one kid walking into Jackass with a ticket for I Spy while I was on my way back to the booth. We do the best with what we've got, but they do sneak by occasionally.

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Travis Turnbough
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The theatre I used to work at has had many problems with this. They have had an Exit sign ripped off the wall.
A candy case was kicked in and broken.
And of course, some drunk threw a whiskey bottle across the theatre, and as security was escorting him out he was hitting himself on the head with the bottle. Security ended up having to mase the guy.

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Joshua Lott
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It is very difficult sometimes for us. Take last night for example (election day eve). Lots of kids have off from school today, so we got crushed significantly more than we expected. We just didn't have the staff to put at the doors of the auditoriums.

I disagree. I can understand as to how some would get by. But on getting crushed on a night before you know school is going to be out is crazy. Management should have accounted for this in there scheduling.

It is up to the management to know that flow of customers in there building, and be anticipating for any jumps in numbers. Sometimes things happen. But as a general rule management should have control of there building in every aspect. And areas that have things happen they should have plans in place for that.

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Mark J. Marshall
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I agree, they should have seen it coming. I don't meant to make excuses. Our theater patronage has been up recently and we frequently get surprised like that.

Anyway, I just noticed last night one of our perf screens had a 1 - 2 foot tear in it. It's less than a year old, too. grrrrr.....

If there was ever a print that I really really really wanted to drop down the stairs and kick out into the parking lot while it was raining, and then keep showing it that way.....

I'd never do that of course, but you know how frustrating it is to have these idiots come in and see a pristine presentation that you work so hard to do only to have them tear your screen, steal your signs, break your seats, scratch your mirrors, piss in the theater or whatever.... The only drawback is that the theater would end up paying for the print too.

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Joshua Lott
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I understand where you are coming from. I was just frustrated becuase there are so many managers out there that want to blame some one else with out taking responsibility.

Part of what my company does is goes into theatre (and other businesses) and works out there current problems, creates new policy if neccasary, removes old policy and the like.

We go in an get stuff fixed. Then we work on the public relations issues. We fix the building and staff, then promote it.

It can work really well if the owners are open minded.

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Mark J. Marshall
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Theater owners should do a cost benefit analysis of showing Jackass. Maybe we took in a few thousand dollars in profit from the concession stand, but if we have to buy a new screen now, and pay someone $1000 to hang it up, was it really worth it? Especially since that movie will die LONG before we start making any profit from the box office. Maybe we should have brought Greek Wedding back instead.

But then again, with some of the decisions we make, I'm not sure we're in business to make money.

Mark

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Dustin Mitchell
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Well, a few things to consider. First, you have to keep the film company happy. Now this shouldn't be the only factor in making booking decisions, and sometimes theatres can go a bit overboard in this area, but turning down a major release like 'Jackass' isn't going to make Paramount your best friend. The second thing to remember is that the damage to your screen may or may not be covered by your property insurance. I'm no insurance expert so I'm not sure if you can make claims for vandalism. Its something to look into though.

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Dave Williams
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Most theaters will buy a vandalism rider to pay for such claims.

Here is the problem...

Since the attacks of 9/11, as most insurance companies have had to pay out BILLIONS in claims as a result, new guidlines are bieng applied by most major carriers.

If you make too many claims over the life of your policy, you may be rejected by your insurance carrier and may not be renewed. New companies may not accept your policy either.

It all comes down to cost. If you have a thousand dollars in damage, and can afford to fix it without a claim, then fix it. If you don't have the cash, then think about how you can prevent it from happening again, and make the claim.

Just remember that insurance, while there to cover costs of loss, should be used in the case of high or total loss.

Example, you get robbed and lose 300 dollars. DONT FILE THE CLAIM.

OR... you get robbed and lose 32 THOUSAND dollars. FILE THE CLAIM.

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Charles Everett
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The Loews E-Walk in Times Square -- 13 screens, all stadium, all digital -- has had no damage AFAIK. When I was there yesterday there was an usher at EVERY auditorium entrance checking ticket stubs. That's partly because the E-Walk is in a "feast" period (8 Mile, I Spy, Santa Clause 2, Bowling for Columbine, Jackass, The Ring).

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Steve Scott
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Not really damage, but two vomiting incidents (one inside the auditorium, one on a garbage can outside), and one stink bomb, all within 24 hours of each.

We also had some kids threaten a member of management when he told them they had to leave the lobby after the film, at around midnight.

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Mark J. Marshall
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Dustin,

I see your point, but when Paramount decides to release a film tailer made for a particular cross section of people that are known to be vandelous and destructive and lacking any hint of discipline, then they should be understanding if we decide we don't want to have anything to do with that crowd. If they don't understand it, then that's too bad. IMO

Mark

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Stephen Furley
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quote:
JACKASS was banned here in The Bahamas for being "degrading and disgusting." As a result, I don't have any damage to report.

I've never heard of this film; what's it about? In what way is it "degrading and disgusting"

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