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Author Topic: Is anyone else missing their prints? Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 02-21-2003 09:47 AM                     Its actually an issue with the film companies and possibly the booking departments. When Airborne doesn't pick up your prints on Friday its because the Studio hasn't informed TES that those movies are no longer playing at your location. One thing you could do if this happens to you fairly often would be to call TES on Thursday and confirm the pickup times for the prints you are ending that week.  |  IP: Logged Jeff Sirles Film Handler Posts: 10 From: Meredith, NH, USA Registered: Dec 2002 posted 02-21-2003 02:54 PM                     I didnt have said problem, in fact I had the opposite. I recieved 2 prints of "Old School" in 2 locations...only problem was I'm not playing "Old School" at either location. Go Figure  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 02-21-2003 05:22 PM                    We got our prints on time. Gods and Generals came in regular mettle cans. David gale came in on Wednesday and Dark blue came in on Thursday. I already had Old School. My biggest concern was the fact that we had an ice storm this past weekend knocking out power at the theater for 2 days. I was affraid the power may go out again before I got everything ready to go. I still do not have power at home. I have to check my email at work. It has been a mess here.  |  IP: Logged Bill Carter Expert Film Handler Posts: 162 From: Minneapolis, Minnesota Registered: Sep 1999 posted 02-21-2003 06:44 PM                     We also got David Gale a day early... on Wednesday. And much earlier than our usual window. That never happens here!  |  IP: Logged Jacob Huber Expert Film Handler Posts: 172 From: Evansville, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-21-2003 09:55 PM                     I guess us "Northerners" did get it good. I walked up stairs on Wed., and there were the cans for David Gale. We never really have any problems with TES, their prints are almost always at the theatre by the time I get there in the morning on Thursdays, if not earlier. Now the guy who handles ETS's prints is a different story. On time we were waiting around till almost 1am for our prints, and one the other proj. called him on his cell-phone, turns out he was at the local Barnes & Noble's and then went to Wal-Mart or something (this was a big movie wknd no less).  |  IP: Logged Aldo Baez Master Film Handler Posts: 266 From: USA Registered: Mar 2001 posted 02-21-2003 10:50 PM                    Those boxes have been showing up alot more often than usual. Drumline was in a box, my two daredevil prints were in a box, and now gods and generals as well. Hmph.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 02-21-2003 10:53 PM                        We got our print of David Gale on Wednesday as well. I am sure glad Colorado is so far north so we could benefit! I agree that all prints should be two days prior regardless. No excuses. Ah hell all prints should be 1 month prior!  |  IP: Logged Nicholas Roznovsky Expert Film Handler Posts: 156 From: College Station, TX, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-22-2003 12:10 AM                        See, what'd I tell ya - the further north, the easier it gets. Has something to do the gravitational pull of Canada. Far too complex to explain in one simple post. When I was still working in Texas, our ETS guy got pulled over for DUI one Thursday afternoon. The police were kind enough to call us so I could go down to the station and pick up our prints. Long live the independent shipping courier!  |  IP: Logged Kenny Thies Film Handler Posts: 42 From: Effingham, IL, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 02-22-2003 12:50 AM                     Yes, to my surprise to, we got our Gods & Generals, Life of David Gale, on Wednesday. They were both there before 3:30. I rarely even get my prints before 4 on thursdays. I was very happy to see them there a day early. Wish this could be a standard.... IF only  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 02-22-2003 01:28 AM                        I think TES has got it all wrong. Billions and trillions of dollars are being lost due to piracy of movies on Thursdays. This must be changed. All prints should be delivered 1/2 hour before the first show time. And then prints must be broken down each night after the last run, shipped back to TES and then re-shipped back to the theater the very next day 1/2 hour before the first show (different used print each time, of course). I can't believe TES is so careless!  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-22-2003 01:34 AM                     Actually Joe, what they really should be doing is sending the first half of the movie to one theater, and the second half to the next closest theater down the road, of which the two theaters will team up together with box office tickets and showtimes. That way there would never be a complete print in the same building at any given point in time and would thus make bootlegging even harder! That coupled with your idea, of course.  |  IP: Logged Andrew Duggan Expert Film Handler Posts: 127 From: Albany, NY, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 02-22-2003 01:59 AM                        quote: See, what'd I tell ya - the further north, the easier it gets. Has something to do the gravitational pull of Canada. Far too complex to explain in one simple post. I had just assumed, what with Gods & Generals going into wide release this week, that it was some kind of Technicolor salute to the north for winning the Civil War  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-22-2003 10:09 AM                     quote: I had just assumed, what with Gods & Generals going into wide release this week, that it was some kind of Technicolor salute to the north for winning the Civil War Gods and Generals is not from Technicolor! =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Andrew Duggan Expert Film Handler Posts: 127 From: Albany, NY, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 02-22-2003 10:17 AM                        Dammit, I was hoping that nobody would point out the huge flaw in my joke...  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-22-2003 03:41 PM                     Brad, is your statement about TES's Thursday-deliveries being due to piracy concerns actual verified information, or is it speculation? If the former, can you share that with us? A bit of background on TES's delivery practice though (I'm sure some of you know this, but it's good to review). TES gets the booking information from the studios, generally electronically (except when it's via fax...imagine how well that works), somewhere between two weeks and 2 days before the playdate. TES has theatres classified as either "1-day prior" or "2-day prior", specifying whether the theatre can expect to receive prints 1-day before the playdate or 2-days before the playdate. Generally, 2-day prior is reserved for theatres in far outlying areas that Airborne has difficulty delivering to. In theory, I'm under the impression that you can ask TES to classify you as a 2-day prior, and they will say, "Contact your studio booker and have them make the request." I don't know anyone who has successfully managed it, but it may be worth a shot. Of course, that's just for the "regular" system. As we all know, sometimes a studio may ask for prints to be delievered earlier, especially when there are going to be midnight showings, etc. (for some reason this seems to happen more with ETS than TES), and prints can arrive late or same-day. Another spot for flexibility is in the specification of the "playdate." This is more of an issue for films not openning on the break (and non-theatricals), but if your studio booker enters the film as openning on Thursday, well, then you should definitely have it by Wednesday if you're a 1-day-prior, etc. By the way, Airborne is featuring an article about their special relationship with TES on their website. New Book Reveals How Airborne Meets the Test of Time. It's amusing that they still think Sony is a customer. We generally make a practice of calling up TES at the end of the week to verify playdates for the coming week's films. It helps to get a head start on whatever the exciting problems might be. Oh, another thing to know is that TES has something called the "promise date," which is the day they expect to guarantee that you will receive the print. This is mostly useless, as the promise date isn't assigned until just about the instant the print ships, and most prints ship via 2nd-day Airborne Express. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged

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