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Author Topic: Tears of the Sun David Favel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 764 From: Ashburton, New Zealand Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-07-2003 01:51 AM                     Welcome to the future guys. In New Zealand all prints are shipped in boxes & flat. Cheaper?  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-07-2003 02:02 AM                        Forgive me for going off the topic about the shipping container for the print of"TEARS OF THE SUN" but I thought you might all be interested to know that all of the outdoor African scenes (Nigeria?) in the film was photographed in Hawaii on the other side of the island of Oahu where I live. Many of the scenes in "JURASSIC PARK III and "WINDTALKER" was also filmed there. That's the wonderful thing about the United States of America. We have all kinds of environmental locations for film making that no other country has. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Brad Haven Master Film Handler Posts: 300 From: fremantle, West Australia Registered: Aug 2001 posted 03-07-2003 11:05 AM                     i can't recall the last time i recieved a film in cans, all films now come in plain cardboard boxes i miss the cans and spools!  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-07-2003 11:54 AM                        I hate those boxes. They're hard to carry, and when open, the flaps get in the way. Our print of Daredevil came in a box, but Just Married was in cans.  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-07-2003 08:17 PM                        Our print of Tears came in the box also. I, personally, prefer the box(es) as they are actually lighter than the metal counterpart. It is cumbersome to handle an entire print in one box, but it would seem to me that the bean-counters would figure out that the overall shipping costs incurred for the box(es) wind up considerably cheaper than the cans. All the monies saved annually on shipping could be re-invested in media cleaner(s) and other much needed booth supplies for those locations unfortunate enough to get them...  |  IP: Logged James R. Hammonds, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 931 From: Houston, TX, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-10-2003 11:38 AM                     I first saw these boxes with prints of Strange Days.  |  IP: Logged Andrew Duggan Expert Film Handler Posts: 127 From: Albany, NY, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-10-2003 12:55 PM                        Luckily, with the exceptions of Tears of the Sun and Gods & generals, all of our prints have still been coming to us in the good old fashioned banged-all-to-hell metal cans. Those boxes make me see red. I'm sure they're probably cheaper to use, but dammit, I'm set in my ways. Cans for life!  |  IP: Logged Gracia L. Babbidge Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 709 From: Bowdoin, Maine Registered: Aug 2000 posted 03-10-2003 02:07 PM                        I do not like the shipping boxes - at all! I have a much more difficult time lugging a shipping box up to the booth than I have lugging a pair of beat-to-hell shipping cans up the stairs. I can't exactly carry the box by its handle, puts me too far off balance, and makes my arm feel quite dead rather quickly. And hugging the box to my torso doesn't work much better - as then I can't exactly see where I'm going, and I don't feel like I have a solid grip on the box. It would be a little different if I was a bit taller (with arms a bit longer), but I'm quite sure that I'm stuck with being 5'5". The prints that I can recall arriving in boxes are Attack of the Clones, Drumline, Gods And Generals, and Tears of the Sun. I think there may have been another, but I can't remember what.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-10-2003 08:11 PM                     Maybe you should remove the reels from the box before moving it [perhaps put them in some empty reel cans temporarily ]. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-10-2003 08:32 PM                     Originally, the boxes were used exclusively for Fox titles, hence the nickname 'Fox Box'. The earliest movie I have seen shipped in them was 'Broken Arrow'. Apparently other studios are using the boxes as well. I do like the fact that you can fit a 7-reel movie into a single box. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Andrew Duggan Expert Film Handler Posts: 127 From: Albany, NY, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-10-2003 11:20 PM                        Yeah, the reel capacity is certainly a plus, but I just can't see these boxes being able to protect the prints as well as the cans do, against poor shipping, accidents, etc.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-11-2003 04:55 AM                        The boxes would be OK if they made them in the same sizes as cans so that each box could hold 2-4 reels. As it is now, a box containing seven full reels is heavy and difficult to carry up steep and/or narrow booth staircases. I thought that the handle was useless and that it was easiest to carry the box by lifting it from the bottom. Generally, though, I prefer clean metal cans. It would be great if someone designed a disposable plastic liner which could be used in these to protect the film and which could be replaced easily at the depot when it became dirty/damaged/etc. For shipping on cores, I've seen a rather clever shipping container (from Spain, I think) which is made of plastic and looks very much like a standard octagonal ICC can. The inside of this container is designed to hold three plastic cans like what the European labs sometimes use for shipping film. Instead of a small metal carrying handle on the top, there is a large and comfortable plastic handle where the latch would be on a US-style can. The only problem with this container that I could see is that it is held closed by a plastic "pin" (like on a door hinge) which is easy to lose. With an improved latch design and those (Chinese?) cans which someone posted a picture of that are designed to hold the core in the center of the can, this might be an ideal shipping container for prints on cores.  |  IP: Logged Zach Zagar Film Handler Posts: 45 From: Jefferson City, MO Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-11-2003 09:05 AM                        What is better than the boxes and cans you ask? Does anyone remember the GIANT blue plastic reels? You would get 1 movie on two giant reels. This was, I assume, only in a limited run, and I haven't seen it since 98 or 99, but man, that made make up and breakdown so much easier. Think about it man, two splices instead of 6! Wow.  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-12-2003 11:20 PM                        IIRC, that was a Paramount venture, right? I'd assume that there were those who decided those were "too heavy" and "too awkward" to handle.. Jeez.... I liked 'em. Splice your prebuilt trailers on, hit the R3-R4 splice and away you go...  |  IP: Logged Nicholas Roznovsky Expert Film Handler Posts: 156 From: College Station, TX, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-13-2003 12:14 AM                        For some reason, I seem to remember that as a Warner Bros. experiment. The only print I can remember getting in the big blues was Free Willy 3 , which I think was a WB release. I want to say that there was a press release saying that New Line was going to try them too, but I don't ever recall getting a New Line print in them. Of course, that all may just be a hallucination. I miss the big blues too. Hell to haul upstairs but well worth it once you got up to the make-up table.  |  IP: Logged

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