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Author Topic: Questions about Spy Kids 3D Andrew Walls Film Handler Posts: 17 From: Newark, DE Registered: Oct 1999 posted 06-11-2003 01:58 PM                     Correct...  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 06-11-2003 02:04 PM                     Thanks, Bill. The color keyed processes (red/green, red/blue, cyan/amber) are single-frame single-strip and don't require a silver screen or projector modifications.  |  IP: Logged Andrew Lee Film Handler Posts: 99 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2002 posted 06-11-2003 02:49 PM                     Red/Blue or "Anaglyph" does not require a special screen or projector to present 3D.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 06-11-2003 03:16 PM                    quote: Small point: If you're talking about polarizing the two images, that was the ORIGINAL way to separate them. Red/green / red/blue came later. If you haven't already, check out the 3d film fest page. I think the Red and blue came first. I remember my dad telling me about some 3-D movies he saw back in the hey day that used the Red and Blue glasses. He always complained about them.  |  IP: Logged William Leland III Master Film Handler Posts: 336 From: Charleston, SC, Registered: Aug 2002 posted 06-11-2003 03:55 PM                        quote: Probably only the last 30 minutes or so is actually in 3-D. I can assume the audience will be told when to put on the glasses. I hope so, we all know how stupid a large group of people can be. I use to get compalints that the movie was "moving strange", only to find out it was the slide projector.  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 06-11-2003 10:21 PM                     D-5 was the tape format used for Miramax "digital projection" screenings of AN IDEAL HUSBAND back in 1999 (Laemmle Sunset 5, West Hollywood, 1 theatre in New York. http://www.panasonic.com/PBDS/subcat/Products/vtrs_vcrs/f_aj-d580h.html is the current Panasonic model number for D-5 playback: for studio mastering: http://www.panasonic.com/PBDS/subcat/Products/vtrs_vcrs/f_aj-hd3700a.html  |  IP: Logged Nicholas Roznovsky Expert Film Handler Posts: 156 From: College Station, TX, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 06-11-2003 11:44 PM                        I can't wait for that rush of customers midway through the movie when they realize that they need those glasses they chunked in the trash on their way into the theater. I seem to remember at least a few coming out to the box office during Freddy's Dead to sheepishly claim another pair of glasses (or vehemently deny that they received any in the first place). It's a cool idea and something that kids will enjoy. It's a bit of a pain, but all in all I think it's worth it. Anything that can make a movie an event is a good thing, especially when so many customers seem to think that DVDs can offer a better presentation than their local theater. Although its gimmicky, I'm all for it if it brings people in.  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-12-2003 03:06 AM                        i don't know exactly when polarized 3-d started (sometime in the 50's i guess), but i did see a very old experimental 3-d film that used red/green. from some time in the silent era. it might have been in a touring program of films from the library of congress. in any case, it didn't work for me. carl  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 06-12-2003 07:58 AM                        "The Power of Love" was one of the first 3D movies, released in 1922, using the red/cyan anaglyph process to separate the left eye and right eye images: http://us.imdb.com/SearchTechnical?PCS:3-D  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-12-2003 09:59 AM                     Back in the 80s, I remember people refering to the Red/Blue 3D movies as "Headache Vision." -- TV's Ed O'Niel (Al Bundy) made a comment about it during FOX-o-Rama in the mid-90's when you had to go to 7-11 and get the special 3D Glasses and scratch-n-sniff cards to watch and use along with the TV programs. I still have that Revenge Of The Nerds movie (Nerds in Love?) on tape somewhere in that 3D format. Without the glasses, the picture looked normal, but when you put them on there was noticable depth to the picture. One lens of the glasses was yellowish, and the other one was dark, dark, grey (almost opaque). =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 06-12-2003 01:42 PM                     That was phony 3-D, if you make one eye darker than the other there's a delayed effect when things are moving left to right. I have that Revenge of the Nerds on tape too, nice seeing that onscreen Fox logo in 3-D Red/Blue 3-D sucks; I saw some of the 80s 3-D movies like Jaws 3-D and Treasure of the Four Crowns in some real dumps that were still capable of showing polarized 3-D, but the theater I worked at when Freddy's Dead came out couldn't handle polarized which is why they released that in red/blue. Were silver screens common once but not anymore?  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 06-12-2003 02:17 PM                     The "light/dark" glasses are to take advantage of the Pulfrich Effect, which gives the illusion of 3-d. There was a Super Bowl about 15 years ago that did this, and also an episode of THIRD ROCK FROM THE SUN about 6 years ago. I have both on tape. Actually because of the side-to-side motion of the football game, there was a very good 3-D effect there. The THIRD ROCK episode was very well done by people who knew how to maximize the effect. It worked very well.  |  IP: Logged Andrew Lee Film Handler Posts: 99 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2002 posted 06-12-2003 02:39 PM                     Anyone can make a Pulfrich 3D video. Take a video cam and film a scene going left to right or right to left. If you hang out of a car window and have "someone else" drive 5-10 miles an hour, film straight ahead and steady. Take an old par of sunglasses and punch out the leading eye depending on which way you filmed. Watch the video on TV through the one eyed glasses and you will be amazed at the effect. With some time and experimenting you can get some really interesting scenes. Actually I believe this is the only way you can get any true depth from TV these days(including reality shows).  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 06-13-2003 08:56 AM                    "L'arrivee du Train" (1903) is considered by some to be the first public theatre exhibition of 3D. One page that I found said that "plates of glass" were used, which suggested to me "polarized glass" although I could be wrong. But there is apparently some confusion on how the illusion was done exactly. If anyone has details on that, I'd love to hear them.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-13-2003 10:41 AM                     Polarization was a post war development of the land corporation a sequence in Napoleon was in anaglyphic 3d  |  IP: Logged

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