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Mark J. Marshall
Film God

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From: New Castle, DE, USA
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 - posted 09-04-2003 09:19 AM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm with you on Seabiscuit, Bobby. That feature has the "Intolerable Cruelty" trailer in front of it, and I have to turn it down a full 3 DB on the SDDS to avoid complaints. Then the feature gets turned back up. I also noticed that if you play Seabiscuit at reference level or slightly higher, the audience cheers and claps during the War Admiral race. Pretty cool! But changing the volume for every show IS a royal pain in the ass.

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Scott Jentsch
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 - posted 09-04-2003 10:21 AM      Profile for Scott Jentsch   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Jentsch   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If the trailers are detracting from the presentation, why not remove them? If the studios realize that their ads aren't being shown because audiences are complaining, maybe some action will be taken.

I rarely hear trailers in analog any more, so I haven't noticed a similar problem with the loudness of trailers. Someone brought up the Texas Chainsaw Massacre trailer, and that one is quite interesting in its use of the discrete channels to get its point across...

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Peter Kerchinsky
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 - posted 09-04-2003 02:49 PM      Profile for Peter Kerchinsky   Email Peter Kerchinsky   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad
I'm sure your right about nothing being done by that group on trailer volume. Seems to me, though, if alot, and I mean alot of us complain loud and often just maybe something will happen. Does anyone know how to get to the top instead of dealing with a group. Boycotting their trailers won't work because our head office tells us which trailers to run on each feature. We can't just say the trailer is too loud and we (projectionists) refuse to play it. Yes, automation is the ultimate answer, but I'd rather have that money spent on wages etc.
Let's all complain often and loud for as long as it takes and see what happens.
On another subject, I heard Kodak patents came about on this date in 1888. Happy birthday John. (Hope I got the year right!)

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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 - posted 09-05-2003 01:48 AM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
If the trailers are detracting from the presentation, why not remove them? If the studios realize that their ads aren't being shown because audiences are complaining, maybe some action will be taken.
That would only have a chance of working if you owned your own theater. Even then, some distribution agreements are going to wind up forcing you to run a lot of those trailers anyway. Plenty of checkers get in there to verify that you're running the proper trailers.

A manager has little to no say at all when it comes to running commercials and movie trailers in cinemas owned by movie chains like Loews, Carmike, etc. The main complaint I hear from staffers is not so much the problems of trailer volume in this regard. The big problem is cramming 20+ minutes of trailers and commercials onto a show, being expected to still get in 4 or 5 shows a day and then have only a couple minutes to get the auditorium cleaned and ready for the next audience.

With that kind of thing in mind, it makes me appreciate that chapter forward button on my DVD remote. I can quickly chapter past all those trailers Disney tries to force on you with their DVDs. Too bad you can't do that at the theater.

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Jim Leko
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At least there is no NCN pre-show for Disney movies. When Harry Potter was out, our NCN pre-show was at 10 minutes. Then near 20 minutes worth of trailers.

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R. Andrew Diercks
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From: Marion, Iowa (In the middle of everywhere)
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I agree with all of this as well. Seabiscuit has been the worst because it's a conversation movie which makes it more noticeable.
BTW did anyone notice the irony in Bobby who started this worthy thread. He is sitting directly in front of many large speakers holding a guitar in his photo. [Wink] Just thought that was interesting, but he brings up a very good topic. [thumbsup]

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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 - posted 09-05-2003 06:20 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah but my big speakers are tube amplified! [Cool]

Tube distortion: good and crunchy.
Optical track distortion: imagine Roseanne Barr screaming in your ear during a mudslide. Yeah, very bad!

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