Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE


  
my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Operations   » Ground Level   » Overtime compensation laws (Page 2)

 
This topic comprises 3 pages: 1  2  3 
 
Author Topic: Overtime compensation laws
Leo Enticknap
Film God

Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000


 - posted 11-29-2003 09:45 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Unless, of course, you're salary. Then you're screwed sideways.
Same on this side of the pond, too. One company I worked for when I was in the cinema business and which shall remain nameless had a habit of sticking someone on salary the moment their hourly pay started to approach a reasonable weekly wage.

 |  IP: Logged

Thomas Procyk
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1842
From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
Registered: Feb 2002


 - posted 11-29-2003 12:12 PM      Profile for Thomas Procyk   Email Thomas Procyk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve, I was hourly, and yes, as Jason pointed out I was to be paid my regular wage over 40 hours. Nevermind that I specifically applied for a PART TIME JOB which shouldn't have put me over 40 hours anyway. But give someone a tie and a gold nametag and they think they're God.

There's an interesting question. If you're a PART TIME employee and you work over 40 hours, it would make sense for them to compensate you 1.5x your pay over those 40 hours since you ARE working "over time" based on your job classification.

Kyle -- That's strange, since 1998-2000 were the years I actually WAS getting paid overtime! [Smile] I'll be the first to admit that Florida is pretty screwed up in terms of labor laws. Hell, minimum wage hasn't budged for over 6 years!!!

I would never, ever accept a salary job unless the salary worked out to be desireable per-hour. And none of this 50-hour week crap I saw many poor managers work week after week.

True that many of us didn't take this job for the money, but we didn't take it as a hobby either.

=TMP=

 |  IP: Logged

Kyle Watkins
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 185
From: Stuart, FL, USA
Registered: Sep 2001


 - posted 11-29-2003 05:52 PM      Profile for Kyle Watkins   Email Kyle Watkins   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I rather not have the OT, of course that depends on the company working for. What I did I for 2 companys i work for, instead of having 2 jobs, I just work at the theater only, work out great for me. The company i work for now does pay OT but wont allow you to work over 40 hours, of course now im salary so it dont really mater.

Kyle

 |  IP: Logged

Rachel Craven
Madam Moderator

Posts: 2190
From: Pensacola, FL
Registered: Dec 2000


 - posted 11-29-2003 06:58 PM      Profile for Rachel Craven   Email Rachel Craven   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
huh? [Confused]

 |  IP: Logged

Benjamin J. Kepner
Film Handler

Posts: 15
From: Muskegon, MI, USA
Registered: May 2002


 - posted 11-29-2003 09:18 PM      Profile for Benjamin J. Kepner   Email Benjamin J. Kepner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I had one of my managers looking up an answer for me and found one that satisfied me. There is a stipulation that any facility that deals with interstate commerce (doesn't apply here) or Has a gross annual income of >$500,000 then they are subject to the rules of the FSLA as stated in previous posts. So yes theaters are exempt from paying overtime unless they make less than $500,000 a year and the state doesn't give them a different exemption. Otherwise they are truly exempt.

 |  IP: Logged

Adam Wilbert
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 590
From: Bellingham, WA, USA
Registered: Mar 2002


 - posted 11-30-2003 12:06 AM      Profile for Adam Wilbert   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Wilbert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A certain lax organization that i recently worked for issued overtime based on the two-week payroll schedule. Meaning 80+ hours in two weeks put you into overtime. 51 hours one week and 30 hours the second counted as 1 hour of 1.5X and 80 hours of 1X. I kept an eye on my hours and pointed it out everytime I exceeded 40 in a week, but the floor staff, as much as i reminded them, did not.

In Arizona, the VPs of Harkin's said that, if the law were to change and OT came into play, the managers just wouldn't be allowed to work over 40. Given the choice, most there would rather work OT at regular pay then being sent home at 40.

-Adam

 |  IP: Logged

Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

Posts: 3686
From: Dallas, TX
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 11-30-2003 12:48 AM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
[Confused] "gross annual income of >$500,000" means greater than $500,000.

 |  IP: Logged

Travis Hubrig
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 175
From: Minot ND, USA
Registered: May 2003


 - posted 11-30-2003 04:05 PM      Profile for Travis Hubrig   Email Travis Hubrig   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Edit:

Carmike now pays overtime 1.5x here in my state.
If you are not salary, you will not work more than 40hrs a week.

I am pretty sure in North Dakota, theatres are exempt from paying overtime...

[ 12-01-2003, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: Travis Hubrig ]

 |  IP: Logged

R. Andrew Diercks
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 232
From: Marion, Iowa (In the middle of everywhere)
Registered: May 2003


 - posted 11-30-2003 11:09 PM      Profile for R. Andrew Diercks   Email R. Andrew Diercks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The State minimum wage rate for Iowa is $5.15 per hour. If the Federal minimum wage surpasses Iowa's minimum wage, the Federal minimum wage rate will replace Iowa's minimum wage rate. Overtime is only applicable when it is included in an employment agreement or a contract between employer and employee.

This was copied from the Iowa overtime law website. Subdirectory of workforce development. I guess this is why I never got overtime before I was salary. Now of course I expect to work over 40 hours. I can't complain though, free movies and the many hours of downtime with little work between showtimes was compensation enough for a lad in school. I might have bitched a bit in a 20 screen with no downtime.

 |  IP: Logged

Jason Black
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1723
From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 11-30-2003 11:21 PM      Profile for Jason Black   Author's Homepage   Email Jason Black   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Travis,

That's a very broad, not to mention untrue, statement that you have made. You might consider editing to reflect OT regs in YOUR state.

 |  IP: Logged

Gracia L. Babbidge
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 709
From: Bowdoin, Maine
Registered: Aug 2000


 - posted 12-01-2003 01:29 AM      Profile for Gracia L. Babbidge   Author's Homepage   Email Gracia L. Babbidge   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I remember being on slavery... er, salary... [evil]

um yeah, work in excess of 40 / week, and technically get paid for only 40 hours. Then again, it was possible to get some paid time off.

Most weeks the amount of hours I worked didn't phase me, then there were the weeks from hell when I would have liked to have been hourly and paid time and a half for the multitude of hours worked in excess of forty. [Razz]

 |  IP: Logged

Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 12-01-2003 03:12 PM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just because you are put on salary does not make you exempt from overtime. Usually people in supervisory/administrative roles are the ones who are exempt, check your state laws to be sure.

As an example, our janitors are paid a salary instead of an hourly wage. In the extraordinarily unlikely event that one of them were to work over 40 hours they would qaulify for overtime pay under Wisconsin law.

 |  IP: Logged

Bill Gabel
Film God

Posts: 3873
From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA
Registered: Jan 2002


 - posted 12-01-2003 05:26 PM      Profile for Bill Gabel   Email Bill Gabel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The screening rooms I worked for in California paid overtime on anything over 40 hours and 8 hours per shift. But the projectionists at the theatres were paid regular time from open to 1am. After 1am you got overtime, so they would schedule films to end just before or just after. So you got 15 minutes of OT.

The Southern California GCC projectionists during the early 90's, got what was called daytime overtime in their contract. This meant anything before 12 noon was overtime. So GCC theatre projectionists with morning screenings would get overtime plus anything after 12 midnight. The other chains had after 12:30 am most of the times during the early 90's.

Here in New York, I'm on salary for 40 hours plus overtime after 8 hours and overtime on weekends and all holidays. Most days I do from 4-6 hours of overtime for the day.

 |  IP: Logged

Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Film God

Posts: 3977
From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from)
Registered: Jun 2002


 - posted 12-02-2003 05:41 AM      Profile for Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Author's Homepage   Email Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Although getting paid over time is nice, I've never been a huge fan of it since I'd rather work at one job 88 hours a week than two jobs at 44 hours a week each. One job cuts down on the travel time which leaves more time for eating and sleeping. I guess the upside is it keeps things a little more interesting.

 |  IP: Logged

John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 12-02-2003 09:23 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
News from NATO:

http://www.infocusmag.com/03november/washreport2.htm

quote:
Issue Takes On New Importance For Election Year
Overtime Pay Takes Center Stage in Congress
by Jonathan Yarowsky
NATO Washington Counsel

In a recent column, we discussed the increasing attention given to the issue of “overtime” pay in the American workplace. At the time of that earlier column, legislation (H.R. 1119) was pending before the House Education and Workforce Committee that would amend the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) of 1938 to permit private sector employers to offer their employees the option of receiving overtime pay in the form of paid compensatory time in lieu of cash wages. Supporters of this legislation contend that in the changing workplace environment, flexibility is necessary to provide working parents with the option of receiving comp time in lieu of cash compensation in order to spend more time at home.

As also indicated at that time, we were monitoring the legislation closely because FLSA, in addition to providing that eligible employees who work over 40 hours will be compensated at a rate of one and one-half times their regular rate of pay, also includes exemptions to such a 40-hour workweek – including a specific reference to motion picture theatres. Thus, any legislation that implicates the underlying provisions of the 1938 Act must be tracked very carefully.

As of this writing, H.R. 1119 has not received a vote on the House floor. However, the legislative action on the issue of overtime has now shifted to a policy debate about the Department of Labor’s plan to change the definition of who is eligible for overtime pay. The changes in definitions are embodied in regulations proposed by the Department of Labor on March 31. There is sharp disagreement about how many people would be affected. Currently, workers earning $8,000 or less are statutorily guaranteed overtime pay. The new regulations would raise the cutoff to $22,100. Supporters of the new regulations contend that this change would allow 1.3 million low-wage workers (earning between $8,000 and $22,000) to be eligible for overtime. At the same time, the regulations would disqualify certain workers now receiving overtime if they “hold a position of responsibility” while performing non-manual work. Opponents counter with the argument that the new standard is overbroad and vague and that, ironically, overtime would be denied to thousands of white collar workers currently receiving it.

On July 10, the House of Representatives debated an amendment offered by congressmen David Obey (D-Wis.) and George Miller (D-Calif.) that would prohibit the secretary of labor from promulgating any regulation that has the effect of exempting from FLSA overtime compensation requirements any employee currently eligible for overtime pay. The amendment which was offered to the Labor Department-Health and Human Services Department appropriations bill (Labor/HHS).

Following the August recess, the Senate took up Labor/HHS. At that time, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) offered a similar amendment to block the implementation of the new Department of Labor rules. Six Republicans joined with 48 Democrats in opposing the proposed changes to overtime eligibility, and the Harkin amendment was approved.

But the matter is hardly resolved, as the larger Labor/HHS bill moves to a House-Senate conference where the conferees must resolve many critical issues covering programs from student loans to medical research to Medicare.

It is now abundantly clear in Washington that the seemingly innocuous, non-partisan issue of “overtime” has finally migrated up the political radar screen to set the stage for an “election year” debate.


 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)
This topic comprises 3 pages: 1  2  3 
 
   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2020 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.