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Author Topic: Assistant Projectionist Problem Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 06-09-2004 03:27 AM                     I feel for you Richard. I too work at a theater that seems to care less and less about quality of presentation everyday. Sure, I've help to keep things up the best I know how, but sometimes I just can't do it all. I agree with Phil too in that people who just don't care need to get the !#$! out. Apathy in any job, let alone the booth, is a dangerous thing. I've seen it first hand and it sucks. I'd like to move on too, as I get paid only $6.50 an hour and I've been with the company for three years. I want to go somewhere that cares a little more about presentation than how much popcorn we're selling. We at Film-Tech should just get a very wealthy investor and start our own chain. That'd be the day, huh! Question is, who would we want to be our boss? AJG  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-09-2004 04:08 AM                        Richard, you might want to resort to physical violence. I have not found any problem that physical violence cannot quickly and efficeintly resolve. From crappy coworkers, sassy children, budget problems, papercuts, wrong show taped on your VCR/Tivo, stoplights not turning green fast enough, hay fever and not being able to find a parking space, physical violence is the right solution all of the time.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 06-09-2004 08:44 AM                        Don't confuse AGE with MATURITY. When someone new makes a mistake, how they take responsibility is a good indication of whether they are suited to the job. Do they learn from the experience, or do they just make excuses?  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-09-2004 09:44 AM                     quote: Dennis Benjamin Actually, I have been a theatre manager in Florida myself - By law you have to be 18 to run a 35mm projector... Not true at all. Well, at least not 10 years ago. I ran projectors for Regal (by myself!) for two years before I turned 18. Unless it was just because I was so awesome, they left me alone Richard, I don't think Plant City is too far. You should email me some info on your theater and I'll pay a visit. Maybe when your "too cocky for my own pants" GM gets a raging, screaming customer complaining about the scratched presentation, they'll wake up. I had the same situation at my theater just a couple weeks ago. There's a kid in the booth that is just this short of assramming the manager, so there's NOTHING he can do wrong. So, when I saw that he broke down ROTK without leaders, left the makeup table at the platter, and decorated the floor with 20 frames (two from each reel end) I called the OWNER and had him look at the booth. Problem solved. Sometimes you need to go over someone's head to get things done. Then if they try to retaliate, it strengthens your case to bring it to the hire ups. "So and So fired me because I brought this problem to your attention. Their justification was that it made them look bad. I'm concerned that the COMPANY looks bad under their management for THESE reasons." But yeah, physical violence is the best as Joe said. I'd just throw a xenon at his head and call it a warning. =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-09-2004 10:09 AM                     Richard you should really try the physical violence method at whatever theater you end up at. Do it the first day, that way you dont end up in the same situation, with no respect given to you at all.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-11-2004 02:27 AM                     Just because they let you run projectors when you were under 18 doesn't necessarilly make it legal. Movie theatres, or more accurately movie theatre managers, violate labor laws knowingly and unkowningly all the time. Whether or not there is a state law in Florida there is still the issue of federal laws and OSHA regulations. I'm not really sure what the legallities are. In any event, 18 to run projectors is a pretty good policy regardless of the law.  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-11-2004 03:01 AM                        Thanks Dustin for the back-up and good points. An excerpt from a website with pertinant info: http://studentservices.pasco.k12.fl.us/sspages/sschildlaborlaw.html PROHIBITED OCCUPATIONS The Child Labor Law and the Federal Fair Labor Standards Act identify many jobs as dangerous to the health and safety of minors. Minors are not permitted to work in such occupations as excavations, electrical work, roofing, mining, operating heavy machinery or moving vehicles, or around explosives or dangerous equipment. Minors 14 and 15 are prohibited from working in the construction industry. Minors 16 and 17 are allowed to be employed in light construction occupations; however, the use of equipment prohibited by State and Federal Regulations would still apply. For an extensive list of prohibited occupations, please refer to Child Labor Bulletins 101 and 102, which are published by the U.S. Department of Labor, and Section 450.061 of the Florida Statutes. FEDERAL INFORMATION Employment of minors is also regulated by Federal Law. Following the provisions in this poster does not necessarily mean compliance with the Federal Child Labor Law. For more information, contact the U.S. Department of Labor, Wage and Hour Division, listed in your phone book under U.S. Government. For more information about Florida's Child Labor Law or to report violations, contact the Child Labor Office at: Florida Department of Labor and Employment Security Bureau of Compliance/Child Labor Section P.O. Box 5436·Tallahassee, Florida 32314-5436 Telephone: (904) 487-2536 (800) 226-2536 Fax: (904) 487-4928 Also, if you look at the following PDF file you will see specific information on what jobs someone under cannot do. On page 11 of the handbook - projectors fall under two catagories: "Moving Machinery" and "Electrical Apparatus and Wiring". http://www.state.fl.us/dbpr/pro/childlabor/forms/child_handbook.pdf  |  IP: Logged Dean Kollet Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 591 From: Florida State University Registered: Jul 2003 posted 06-11-2004 11:41 AM                     My .2cents: The kid who's eyes were "gleaming" when he saw the equipment should be given a chance. As far as my experience, if you have passion and the drive to do it...plus you are very interested in it...you tend to pay a lot more attention to it. Hence a better presentation. What's the difference if he is 16 or 17...if he mature enough, and you think he could do it, maybe it's time to train another  |  IP: Logged Robert L. Fischer Expert Film Handler Posts: 145 From: Montreal, Quebec Registered: May 2004 posted 06-11-2004 03:48 PM                    I started running a projector at the age of 16 and the worst thing I've ever done is break a take-up rod. I actually enjoy and respect my job though, so that counts for something...  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-12-2004 12:29 PM                     Dennis, I'm going to have to disagree. I read that PDF, and given where "moving machinery" is classified, (with other tractor/farm equipment) I would have to interpret that as machines that physically change location, such as those large electric carpet-cutters they have at Home Depot. As for "Electrical Apparatus and Wiring", I have never had to re-wire anything in the booth, or touch any exposed wiring, nor would I want to. I am not paid enough nor do I choose to take the risk of working with anything electrical or any sort of wiring. I'm not an electrician, I'm a projectionist. Electricians make double or triple my wage. That said, is Motion Picture Equipment listed in "an extensive list of prohibited occupations"? I'm not trying to call you a liar or anything, I'm just curious about the interpretation of the law. =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 06-13-2004 09:35 AM                     I have an update. Regarding my previous post about the problems that happened while the GM was away. I just found out that the 19 y/o manager, the person that took the in the auditorium got fired. His friend also quit. This should be an interesting day today.  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 06-13-2004 09:56 PM                     On this topic, for reasons unbeknownst to me, this 17 y/ has been removed from the booth. My GM called me in today and gave me his hours during the week. Surprisingly, no physical violence was needed  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-13-2004 10:20 PM                  This guy was not only a 19 y/o, but a MANAGER? JFC! How sad. I'm REALLY glad that he is NOT indicative of the 19 y/o's that I know! YUK! He should wallow in his own sh!t! Ya know, sorta like when a dog "slips" up in the house...you rub his nose in it... That would be too good for that low life guy. >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 06-13-2004 10:33 PM                     Well, from what I heard. Yesterday, he, and two cooks came in. about 2 hours later, He came out gave in his keys and left. The two cooks took their shirts off and threw them at the GM behind concession and ran around the lobby for a bit then left..shirtless.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-13-2004 10:42 PM                  quote: Richard Greco ...ran around the lobby for a bit then left..shirtless. Whew...sounds hot! Where they cute? Hubba Hubba! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged

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