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Author Topic: Dealing with a stupid doorman Mike Spaeth Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1129 From: Marietta, GA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 06-19-2004 11:12 PM                        You probably work for one of those chains (Carmike) that sends out "mandatory" show schedules with little or no turnaround between shows. I schedule 30 minutes between each show, squeezing to 20 on a very slow show if absolutely necessary.  |  IP: Logged Michael Harlow Expert Film Handler Posts: 170 From: Faversham, Kent, UK Registered: Jul 2002 posted 06-20-2004 12:34 PM                     My attitude is that a customer has paid to see the film and if they want to watch all the credits then fine! We just go home later!  |  IP: Logged Eric Hooper Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 532 From: Fort Worth, TX, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 06-20-2004 01:14 PM                     I personally think it's extremely RUDE for employees to come barging in and start cleaning an auditorium while the credits are still rolling and people are still in their seats. I avoid theatres that do this.  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 06-20-2004 11:38 PM                     Ok, I have a GREAT solution to this problem!!!! I started this today. I just went and cleaned another theatre while the credits were rolling in Dodgeball! No problems with bothering customers, no problems with other staff, no problems at all. I just went and did my work somewhere else. I think I can do this daily till I get somehting better. I feel much better and I think I overreacted when I made that post. I think things are going to be okay!  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-21-2004 02:23 AM                        "You people watching the movie are in my way!" I think one of the furthest extensions of this I saw was when I was a kid with about 5 friends, the only ones watching some programmer movie in a typical couple-hundred seats storefront downtown movie house, last show on a weeknight - the movie just ended with one or more reels to go. We sat there, then went out front to see what was going on. The manager was at the door, he was also the projectionist, & he said the movie was over, he wanted ready to go home. No, we couldn't have our money back, just go.  |  IP: Logged Rob Butler Film Handler Posts: 91 From: Westford, MA, USA Registered: Mar 2004 posted 06-21-2004 11:05 AM                     I've always seen it as the credits are part of the movie even though most people don't stay and watch. The way I see it, the show isn't over till the dowser closes. I don't personally like it when the house staff goes in and starts cleaning around the customers during the credits, and I especially get annoyed when ushers actually ask the customers if they have any trash while they sit and watch the credits. I just figure that if the dowser's still open and there's still film running through the projector, the movie's still running and the customers should get the same quality in the credits as they did with the rest of the movie.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-21-2004 11:46 AM                     I side with the doorman on this one. I ALWAYS told people about the Matrix trailer at the end of Reloaded. They appreciated it, except I would say, "If you want to see a surprise, there's something after the credits" but not tell them exactly what. Half would usually leave, and half would stay. That said, quote: Richard Greco She just keeps me because I am the only qualified projectionist there and she doesn't want to run the films. Then there you go. Why didn't you bring it to her attention that you have her by the proverbial balls a long time ago? If you're at a Carmike, I can sympathize. Same thing, just get a picture on the screen no matter what it looks like! Hell, we even played scratched and trashed trailers that had been through numerous brainwraps thanks to the other "projectionists" because they were on the corporate trailer list. That's how Carmike works, there is no reality except what's on paper. The movie isn't damaged because no one complained. The theater isn't too hot because it doesn't smell like ass-sweat yet. But MAKE SURE you sign those damn theater checklists, because as long as some goof's initials are on there, that means there were no problems. Am I right? It has already been deduced that this theater won't be a good reference for you. Once you are secure with another job (that's what I did. I worked at the other place for a couple weeks before I quit my other job.) then at the first sign of shit they give you, let out your feelings, albeit in a mature fashion. Be assertive, not aggressive. Explain that you are tired of being treated like "time on the clock" instead of a real person and that you feel your presence is more of an inconvenience to the staff and management than an asset. So on that note, "Build the damn movies yourself. Maybe then you'll appreciate me." And leave without another word. Then, if they try to contact your new employer to rat on you, you can sue the shit out of them. Bingo. You got your own theater! Oh, and if any of Richard's smartass co-workers or detestable management are reading this, if you'll only sign this waiver releasing me from any legal consequence, I'll meet you in the parking lot after hours. =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-21-2004 11:54 AM                     Richard, I hope you are catching the trend here. All of these problems can be solved with physical violence. Joe was right all along.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-21-2004 12:31 PM                     I don't understand your problem you have posted several other posts re unprofessional behavior and film done wrong presentations but this seems to me to be the cincher that you should reacess yourself. The audience has a right to view the entire movie (credits included) with out interruption or interference by some one getting a headstart on cleaning. The door person is doing the customers (who by the way really are the ones who sign your paycheck) a favor by advising them of the ending scenes.  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 06-21-2004 01:32 PM                     You're calling the doorman "stupid" because he actually wants people to stay til the end of the movie??? I'm sorry, before I thought you cared about a good presentation, but apparently I was wrong.  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 06-21-2004 01:46 PM                     IMHO, if people want to stay for the credits, that's fine. If people are staying because one told them to, then that is wrong because it should be a treat for the ones who actually care to stay b/c they want to see the film from the first frame to the last. Also, what does presentation quality have to do with customers watching the credits or not. My picture always looks crisp and quality.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-21-2004 03:09 PM                     "Also, what does presentation quality have to do with customers watching the credits or not. My picture always looks crisp and quality." The credits are part of the film to and part of the total package The door person is doing a service to the patron not the otherway around After rereading a bunch of your post I would seriously consider a different industry to work in  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 06-21-2004 11:50 PM                     Gordon, I take offense to your last post. I love what I do and I respect everything that the projectionist stands for. As I had said in earlier posts, I had overreacted to that situation and I made things better the next day. I apologize for any confusion that my post may have caused. I think I was just having a bad day when that happened. I greatly respect this line of work and what all of you do. I hope that I still have that same respect that I give everyone else here.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 06-21-2004 11:57 PM                    That you care puts you miles ahead of most. None of us would be here if we didn't care.  |  IP: Logged Dave Williams Wet nipple scene Posts: 1836 From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 06-22-2004 12:36 AM                        It is COMPLETELY inappropriate to start cleaning the theater until the last of the credits have rolled AND/OR the last patrons have left. If they stick afterwards you can ask them to leave so you can clean, the feature is over. The reason it is wrong to start cleaning is the same reason you don't turn up the lights during the last six minutes of the movie and start cleaning. THE MOVIE ISN'T OVER UNTIL THE HAMMER DROPS!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!! The credits are an acknowledgement of the people who toiled for untold amounts of time for very little money to make that feature, and they deserve as much credit as the people in the last six minutes of any feature, for if it were not for them, the picture would not be made. I have several times voiced my dissatisfaction with cleaning crews directly to them and to thier management about them disturbing me while I read the credits. I have forever banned certain theaters from my viewing experience for thier violations and will never return, and make sure as many people I know never go their either. If there is anyone who has the opinion that my enjoyment of the film is not important, why would I want to ever find that person in a theater I am at? I would seriously ask that person look into your own personal ethics and challenge them before challenging others on thiers. Remember that reaction only takes a second, rational thought takes much much longer. It is better to be silent and be thought of as an intelligent man, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt. Ciao Dave  |  IP: Logged

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