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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 06-30-2004 01:21 AM

I am as old as the wind.

I am as old as the sands of time.

I am as old as the oldest of water dropplets.

I am as old as that dried up hot dog at the quickie mart.

However I am young enough to have fun when it is warranted. [evil]

Ciao

Dave

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Dustin Mitchell
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posted 06-30-2004 03:26 AM

$500 million domestic, $800 million international.

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Jeremy Fuentes
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posted 06-30-2004 06:44 AM

WET NIPPLE SCENE

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Bob Brown
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posted 07-01-2004 01:13 PM

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BOX OFFICE MOJO
BREAKING NEWS
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HOLLYWOOD (Box Office Mojo) – Spider-Man 2 faced its blockbuster destiny
on Wednesday and snared an estimated $38.6 million, according to early Box
Office Mojo estimates.

The $200 million plus Marvel Comics adaptation captured the record for
biggest Wednesday ever, soaring past The Lord of the Rings: The Return of
the King's $34.5 million.

Actual numbers will be posted by around noon Pacific time today...

FULL STORY:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/articles/news/?id=040630bo.htm

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Kyle McEachern
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posted 07-01-2004 02:20 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=529&e=1&u=/ap/20040701/ap_en_mo/film_spider_man2

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LOS ANGELES - "Spider-Man 2" took in $40.5 million in its first day, a record debut that positions the film to beat more box-office highs through the Fourth of July weekend.

Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Exhibitor Relations, said Thursday that "Spider-Man 2" could go on to shatter other debut records, including the best three-day weekend of $114.8 million for "Spider-Man."

Ticket sales Wednesday surpassed the previous debut record of $39.4 million that the original "Spider-Man" grossed in its first day two years ago.

The opening-day figure for "Spider-Man 2" was even more remarkable since it came on a Wednesday, when business is slower than on weekends. The first "Spider-Man" debuted on a Friday.

"We're in uncharted territory looking at midweek numbers this big," Dergarabedian said. "I remember when $40 million was a big opening weekend for a movie not that long ago, and now that's a single day in the middle of the week."

The best previous debut for a movie opening on Wednesday was $34.5 million last December for "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King."

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Thomas Procyk
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posted 07-02-2004 02:56 PM

quote: Kyle McEachern's Posted Article
"I remember when $40 million was a big opening weekend for a movie not that long ago, and now that's a single day in the middle of the week."

That's because ticket prices went up. When will the hype end?

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 07-02-2004 06:22 PM

The hype will NEVER end because this is SHOW BUSINESS. It's called showmanship!

Brings to mind a book I have about the promo campaign for "The Wizard of Oz." They went on and on about the "thousands and thousands of extras" when there were really only a few hundred. So this is nothing new.

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Mike Spaeth
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posted 07-02-2004 09:34 PM

The $40,000,000 comment has very little to do with ticket prices, and much more to do with the oversaturation of screens in this country.

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Jason Black
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posted 07-02-2004 09:57 PM

Mike..

Thank you for taking the words right out of my mouth.

Five years ago, 8000 prints was UNHEARD of, for the most part. These days, it's common practice. [Roll Eyes]

How can we, the exhibitors, continue to profit and grow when the majority of all tickets are sold in the first 7 days of a film's opening? Very few films have 'legs' these days. This is a result of the oversaturation of ALL markets. Right now, there are 16 prints of Spiderman within a 30 mile stretch.. 9 of which are less than 4 miles apart at two mega's...

I'm glad to see the business, but I'd rather see it spread across three or four weeks rather than 3 or 4 days...

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Jeremy Fuentes
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posted 07-03-2004 01:53 AM

You would think that theaters would learn how to make more money for themselves by now. If they have less prints, than the movie would be at their theater longer and still be doing well. The longer a theater has a print, the less percentage they pay, right?

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John Scott
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posted 07-03-2004 09:45 AM

It depends Jeremy. A lot of theatres are going from booking in the traditional 80/20 to 50/50 sliding scale to an agrigate amount that doesn't adjust (I've heard quoted around 55%).

I guess that there are pros and cons to each, but the latter option encourages theatres to book more prints for opening weekend.

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Pravin Ratnam
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posted 07-03-2004 12:05 PM

quote: Jeremy Fuentes
If they have less prints, than the movie would be at their theater longer and still be doing well.

Not if other theaters in the city are showing the same movie in many of their screens. This would only work if the theater is one of the very few showing the movie in a small town.

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Ray Kaufman
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posted 07-03-2004 12:35 PM

I’d have to agree with Pravin’s comment on showing on fewer screens to stretch the run. This is USER driven, and you have to be able to meet the demand, when the demand is there. The public has become so extremely intent on seeing the current rage on opening weekend, it’s impossible for the little guy to compete in larger markets. We’ve evolved, rather rapidly, into a society of “I want what I want when I want it and that’s now dammit!!” If I can’t meet that demand, I lose.

It’s all intertwined. Driven by the major corps. Three screens to six screens to multiplexes to megaplexes. In the summer months, that 20 screener may be playing only six or eight films. And the studios/distribs love it. Automatic income, Instant return.

I don’t think any other industry in the last 75 years, has so drastically morphed and evolved as the movie business, and just when someone thinks it’s settled – Whamo, think again.

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Thomas Procyk
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posted 07-03-2004 12:53 PM

Yeah, but I bet those 16 prints of Spiderman have all but 30 people in each show on the weekdays. But they still have to run them all. I think someone once said in this vast forum that megaplexes only do about 15% capacity on a typical weekday, and MAY reach 35% on a typical summer weekday (non-holiday).

The REAL way to run a megaplex is to run all 15 copies of the latest rage on the weekend, and on Monday, cut it down to 5 screens, and show arthouse or independent fare on the other 10 screens, which usually gross better on the weekdays, anyway.

But no, instead I can look forward to getting a private show of Spiderman in the largest auditorium on a Tuesday afternoon. [Smile]

It also irritates me when there are so many prints that showtimes are less than 10 minutes apart. Midnight shows, for example: 12:01, 12:05, 12:10, 12:15, etc... If they built an auditorium that can hold 1,000 people, they could get away with one show, and everyone goes home early. But then you get those people who don't want to be seen with the 12:05 crowd, and the 12:15 crowd talks too much... [Roll Eyes]

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Dave Williams
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posted 07-04-2004 10:14 AM

The real point that is bieng missed here is that the number of screens is less to do with anything but the complete lack of attention by our viewing public.

They line up around the block to see it opening day, and if you don't have enough prints, and there is not enough prints anywhere to see it, they eventually give up and wait for it to come on HBO or DVD or whatever.

It isn't about hype, it is completely about the simple fact that people are now conditioned to live in the moment, tommorrow be damned! The majority of people will not go to a theater if it has been out more than two weeks. They want what's fresh, new, and exciting. And in the summer, there is something new every week.

Are the too many prints? Should we cut them down for legs? No way. Cut the number of prints and you cut your customers off. They wont come in two weeks, they want it now. What we all need is not fewer prints and more movie legs, we need more quality product like Spiderman 2, and we need it every single week, in order to keep the attention of our public.

So there it is, speculation over. No matter how few prints you have, the average movie goer and the average movie will never see the light of each other after two weeks. So much more quality product is needed, and much few pieces of crap.

Ciao

Dave

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