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Jack Ondracek
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From: Port Orchard, WA, USA
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 - posted 08-07-2004 12:05 PM      Profile for Jack Ondracek   Author's Homepage   Email Jack Ondracek   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The coupon indicates the maximum amount it can be redeemed for. If your normal ticket for that time is priced higher, the customer has to make up the difference (or you eat it). If your normal ticket price is lower, you enter that amount into the space. This is supposed to be a promotional motivator... not a way to scam off a couple extra bucks.

This might not be the case with everyone, but we were asked for our ticket prices when we signed up for this. Personally, I've got much better things to do than explain to somebody why I'm cashing an $11 check for a $7.50 ticket.

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Adam Wilbert
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From: Bellingham, WA, USA
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 - posted 08-08-2004 12:27 AM      Profile for Adam Wilbert   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Wilbert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
like i said in my first post, I'm not saying it was the honest thing to do. In reality, the theatre would only make a small percentage off of that two dollars, probably less than fifty cents if it was a first run movie. You're right, it's not worth it.

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Dustin Mitchell
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The far more common method of fraud (as opposed to writing in the checks maxinum amount regardless of ticket prices) is to write in the adult ticket price and ring up a bargain/child/senior/student/whatever ticket. Unless they send out checkers the companies have no idea what time of the day you took the check and thus this kind of fraud is untrackable without an operative physically going to the theatre to pass the check.

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Stephen Jones 1
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You can bet that if the cost of hiring "checkers" and keeping track of fraud on the part of theatres is more than the cost of the fraud itself, then it makes no monetary sense to keep check on the fraud.

This is the same practice used by pretty much every major credit card company around. If the cost of fraud is less than that of a fraud prevention department, then fraud prevention just doesn't happen.

That being said, any fraud detected at my theatre would result in immediate termination no matter the amount. In my book, theft is theft.

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Jason M Miller
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We teach our employees to right the amount on the spot for the cash as the amount of the ticket being printed, but it is good for only one ticket not a set of tickets less then $12.00(or what is on the check) We tell the employees to use it on the most expensive ticket(example...if there is an adult and a child, use the check for the adult ticket) customers like that best.

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Dustin Mitchell
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I can't imagine the cost of checking being more than the cost of the fraud. If the theatre in question does a lot of business you can easily take in $50-$100 on a weekend day of movie checks. Checkers usually aren't paid all that extravagantly. It would likely cost more to put an ad in the paper/online/whatever that it would to hire the checker. Hell, if I didn't work in a theatre I'd do it just for the free movie I'd get to see.

As far as theft being theft and properly training employees to handle the checks I agree 100%.

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Jack Ondracek
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That's probably true, Dustin. However, the cost of checking doesn't stop with the wages of the checker. Compare it to a casual labor outlet like "Labor Ready". The "purchaser" is going to pay them the cost of the worker, his taxes, plus all of their overhead, then their profit margin. All you see at your end it the worker. You can bet the studios are paying plenty, on the gamble that the effort will deter major ripoffs.

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Stephen Jones 1
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You also have to remember that hiring checkers doesn't stop all the fraud. In fact it may only stop a very small percentage. It's all a delicate balance of cutting more payroll and saving less on fraud or cutting less payroll and saving more on fraud.

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Matt Hefright
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in reference to the fraud question, this is where the code number comes into play. after registering with the company they know exactly how much your ticket prices are and they expect to see only those amounts. if you don't have a code and still are able to cash those checks, i feel that it is movie cash that needs to have an internal investigation.

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