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Pete Apruzzese
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From: Mountain Lakes, NJ, USA
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quote: Bernie Anderson Jr
I'll through this one out there too, other than me and Richard, who use their theatre pipe organ before a feature as intermission music?

The Lafayette in Suffern, NY - every Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday matinee. See Mitchell's post above for a picture.
Big Screen Classics at the Lafayette Theatre

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Phil Hill
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quote: Josh Jones
My home screening room has a red curtain, but the motor doesnt work.
Hmmm... Well while I have both a computer-controlled 5-stop curtain drive motor mech and likewise a masking motor mech, I have NO curtain... Ummm nor screening room. [Razz]

(STILL collecting "parts") [Wink]

>>> Phil

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Bill Enos
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Bernie: The organ at the Byrd in Richmond, Va. is still played every Saturday before both evening shows, sing-alongs which seem to be real crowd pleasers are sometimes included. This instrument (Wurlitzer #1948) has never been out of service, and has been played at least weekly for the entire 76 years the theatre has been open, and played 6 nites a week from '60 to '83 when Eddie Weaver gave up every night performances.
If anybody out there can play and would like to play this one some day before opening, e-mail me.

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Gordon McLeod
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phil said "Ummm nor screening room" Yes but when you do it will be a "reel"one as it can show mag [thumbsup]

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JC Cowles
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quote: Chris Hipp
I have a shower curtain...but as for the theatre, well I dont even have side masking.
Ha ha, at the Har Mar theatre's I worked at we had a shower curtain and a curtain in our biggest auditorium. Yes, in the booth, the toilet was hidden by an office partition and a hawaiian theme'd shower curtain. Hopefully Brad will get the pictures I sent in up and you'll be able to see.

The curtain at Har Mar was never used, but at the Mall of America in Bloomington, MN we used one for premiers and the such.

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Brent Neal Jones
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We have a light curtain at the drive-in that dims. same great effect, different way of getting it. [Smile]

Josh, what's wrong w/ ur curtain? Maybe we can help.
I've set up a few myself.

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Jamie Glossop
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I think cinemas with screen curtains are great !. I miss the good old days when we had theodeon and abc cinemas in nottingham. They both had curtains and it was nice to look at but now the warner village which has now been taken over by the ugc cinemas team comes up with 18 screens and no curtains. The no curtains can be good for advertising while the customers walk into a screen but the curtains was a nicer way to show the screen and the cinema logo screening on the curtains while they was opening priceless [Smile] . I am planning on opening a cinema but i need to find some investors somewhere [Roll Eyes] lol. Cinemas realy need to shape up over here. I have worked as a projectionist / usher but when the cinema comes to job advertising they aint intresed [Confused] lol.

Anyways sorry that i dont post much. Im a busy guy these days working on my web hosting company soon to be offering cinema website hosting [Smile]

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Dan Bouvier
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Our theatre (which opened last summer) is a renovated Famous Players, and in our big house we have a curtain but all the stuff is disconnected. I was behind the screen the other day and saw the motor and ropes and everything. It would be cool to get it working someday.

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Kevin Markwick
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First post so a bit nervous....

I have curtains in all three of my screens. Couldn't imagine building a cinema without them. BTW I notice in America you call them a Curtain, don't they come in pairs? Here in the UK we call them tabs. Absolutely no idea why though, perhaps someone could tell me.

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Daniel Alt
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We project in a college auditorium. The front wall of the room looks like a solid hunk of wood, but press a button, and the wall lifts to reveal our screen. It's sort of impressive.. I always feel we ought to be playing "Also Sprach Zarathustra" (that's 2001 for you non-classical people) as it goes up.

(some pictures here)

Well, at least until this summer, when the electricians tilted the screen a bit and then tried to shut the door on it. Now the frame is bent, and we can't close the door at ALL until they fix it.

Which ruins one of our pre show traditions - hit the director with a paper airplane during announcements, and get a free popcorn. Unfortunately, we can't allow airplanes with the door up, for the obvious reason that we don't want them hitting the screen.

Sigh.

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Ken Lackner
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quote: Kevin Markwick
I notice in America you call them a Curtain, don't they come in pairs?
There are single curtains that open upwards rather than out to the sides. I guess in that case it truly would be a curtain rather than curtains.

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William Hooper
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Like Ken says, a curtain can fly straight out in one piece. That Usually requires a fly tower, though, & at that point of fully-equipped, its' also on a traveler so that there can be the option of flying it out or parting it.

"Tabs" is a abbreviation & slight corruption of "tableau curtain"
http://www.sewwhatinc.com/Custom_Sewing/Curtain_Types/Curtain_Types.htm

which is actually a particular type of curtain, not on a traveller. It's been generalized on that side of the pond to just mean a curtain.

The tableau curtain type from which "Tabs" is derived is just one of a lot of ways to hang & open a curtain.

I made a typically long-winded post here once on brail & wagner curtains & whatnot, but Mr. Magic Answer machine ain't turning it up.

The derivation of the other meaning of "tabs" is unknown to me.

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Frank Angel
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quote: Daniel Alt
We project in a college auditorium. The front wall of the room looks like a solid hunk of wood, but press a button, and the wall lifts to reveal our screen. It's sort of impressive.. I always feel we ought to be playing "Also Sprach Zarathustra" (that's 2001 for you non-classical people) as it goes up.

Funny, the Brooklyn Museum has about the same thing. The cinema was designed by a big mucky-muck Japanese architect (whose name you're supposed to oooh and ahhh over when you hear it, but alas, I can't ever remember it....so much for the prestige value of a name). Given how the curators always gush over this "wood panel design," I've just always assumed that the big wooden panels which cover the screen at the proscenium were a unique design of his. Evidently not, eh? Heh Heh.

The "wood curtain" wall looks pretty nice (although not nearly as interesting as a nicely lit curtain) -- one big expanse of blond wood for the audience to stare at. The thing is, the wood panels worked for about six months and then stopped.....well, kind of stopped. You never knew if they would open fully or not when you pushed the button. Sometimes they would make this jerking motion, give out a grunt and blow the breaker. After the first couple of times of having to call other staff and go down with them to physically push these ten ton monsters open by hand in front of an audience, I just refused to activate the silly things.

Thing is, to cover the full width of the proscenium, the things had to be made of four panels, two each side. All four had to move to opposite ends of a proscenium where there wasn't enough space to hold a panel half the width of the stage. So they were constructed as quarter panels, two per side in order that they could fit off-stage. But that's the tricky part -- getting them to be flush when opened, making one seamless front wood wall, yet split and wind up on in front of the other in the off-stage wing. It required an elaborate, custom designed series of snake tracks that made twists and turns so that one panel would eventually wind up folded behind the other, parallel to it's partner in the wing; conversely, when closing, the first one must move faster than it partner so it can get in front of it and angle in, so that by the time both are in place, they are butted together with no overlap. Same on the other side.

It was a lumbering mechanical waltz, one that at its best was tentative, slow and made great moaning sounds as belts and pulleys strained in the track trying to move these huge things into place, all in what seemed like slow motion to the projectionist.

The panels themselves were made up of what looked like wood floor paneling, not a thin, light veneer. Adding to the weight of the thick wood were the unnecessarily massive metal frames that weighed plenty (three guys to move a single panel) on which the wood was anchored. The whole conglomerate did its dance....or floundering and not doing it, depending on the heat and humidity, with great hesitation.

After a chair that had been left on stage in the behemoth's path was crushed like a tin can, there was a rush to install safety mechanisms (we have children on stage all the time), which compromised the reliability factor even more. Somehow pulley tension sensors were installed so that a resistance would stop the motors. They installed a deadman's switch in the booth (you had to hold it down until the panels completed their open or close cycle). And get this -- if your fingers accidentally slipped while holding down the switch and the thing stopped mid-cycle, you couldn't just turn the switch again and keep going. You had to make the panels go all the way back in the other direction and start over again!

Even when they were working, they simply couldn't replace the functionality of a curtain, i.e., preventing the audience from seeing a naked screen. This is because you had to open these panels long before you could throw an image on the screen, they opened THAT slowly. If you tried to open them as the first frame hit the screen, you'd be halfway through the first reel before they finally came to their resting place. OK, that's an exaggeration, but they did take a good 60 seconds to fully open; useless for a curtain effect.

Now that the museum has installed an Eiki "Theatre" projector, I can hook it up to a laptop and play any of the wild visualization programs that are readily available with everyday media players like Spectrum Pro's Psychedelic or Winamp or even Windows Media Player (although I refuse to use Media Player simply because I so loath Microsoft products). The visualizations can all be activated in sync with the non-sync music (life is full of irony), and they really look way tasty on the big screen. The dancing visualizations are wonderful to use as a "light curtain" effect. It certainly is better than a naked screen.

At least the video projector is good for something.

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Stephen Furley
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The National Film Theatre in London used to have strange shutters in front of the screen in their main auditorium, they were painted gold, and were often seen in the background of photographs of people being interviewed on stage there. They were very distinctive, but rather noisy when they moved. I'm not sure what they were made of. For sereral years these were out of use, with the screen left open, but when the place was refurbished a couple of years ago they were removed, and replaced by a conventional curtain.

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William Hooper
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There's a 20s or 30s -era movie theater in one of the New England States that, on the outside, looks like a meeting house or church, but on the inside is stuffed with wild art nouveau murals, etc. I can't remember the name or where it is (it's still in existence), but it seems like originally as part of its High Art interior, it had a sort of painted shutter arrangement instead of curtains.

Edit: It's the Cape Cinema in Dennis, MA. Modern online photos show that the center section of the shutters has been replaced with a curtain.

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