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Steve Guttag
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Hey, Tom Hanks was one of the voices for Toy Story 2!!!

Also, you need to adjust the monies for the inflated ticket prices of the later films.

Tom Hanks and Zemeckis do pack a whallop as a team. Forrest Gump, Cast Away come to mind.

Steve

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Mark J. Marshall
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I'll go way out on a limb.... Polar Express looks really boring to me. And I have it on good authority from someone in that film's target audience that the book is boring too - especially when they were forced to read it in first grade. I don't see it coming close to $100 million, Tom Hanks or not.

Incredibles will easily do that.

That's my bold prediction. We'll see! [Wink]

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Steve Scott
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Did anybody else see the early trailer for Polar Express where Tom Hanks was doing all of the voices? [Eek!] By the second trailer, they had different voices (although the dialouge from the new voices seemed really rough compared to Hanks' parts)

They were either A: Lacking the child actors and really wanted to release an early trailer; or B: Trying to create a feel like Tom Hanks is a father reading the book to all the kids of the world [Roll Eyes]

Anyway, Incredibles will kick box office ass. Disney usually wins [Roll Eyes]

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Robert L. Fischer
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The Incredibles -- $260 - $300 million
Polar Express -- $140 - $180 million

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Dean Kollet
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Incedibles will gross in the high 200's
Polar Express will merely break 200

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Mark J. Marshall
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quote: Steve Scott
Disney usually wins
I think you mean PIXAR usually wins. [Wink]

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 08-31-2004 11:49 AM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well thanks everyone, you made the decision easier. (I was leaning toward "Incredibles" anyway but with some of these children's book adaptations, you never know!)

Personally I think this Pixar film and the upcoming one "Cars" will get even more publicity than usual because of the impending end of their relationship with Disney. We'll see. (Although I'm still almost willing to bet that they'll kiss and make up at some point.)

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Mike Olpin
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As the rumor goes, It may allready be hapening.
http://www.animated-news.com/archives/00001955.html
quote:
"Disney and Pixar: together again?"
The New York Post says that "Steve Jobs' Pixar Animation Studios is likely to renew a lucrative movie-making partnership with Disney. After bailing on Disney, Pixar held preliminary discussions with other studios, including MGM, Sony, Warner Bros. and Fox, [but] Jobs has come to believe that the best home for Pixar is at Disney after all, sources familiar with the matter said". There have been rumors that Disney/Pixar could be making an announcement as early as the San Diego Comic-Con, though it must be emphasized that it is pure speculation at this point.


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Bill Gabel
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The "Incredibles" has Super Heroes [thumbsup]

"Polar Express" is a Musical Fantasy

I would say the "Incredibles".

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Kevin Markwick
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If I only had one screen I'd go with The Incredibles. The Polar Express is going to run out of steam pretty quickly. Ha Ha.

Besides Pixar stuff tends to perform well in the evenings, wheras Polar Express skews towards smaller children. Couldn't you pick it up for early shows during the Christmas holidays and play something else at the same time? Are you guys allowed to do that sort of thing?

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Ben Holley
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where is KD when you need him, he would know the answer for sure [Razz]

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Manny Knowles
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POLAR EXPRESS comes off as a narcissistic experiment in photorealism. The trailer suggests a film that is soulless. THE INCREDIBLES, like any Pixar film, seems to embrace all of the possibilities of the medium, relying on an interesting "what if" premise instead of technical wizardry. Pixar's movies have a certain "look" about them. They don't look realistic, but the visuals always support an interesting, entertaining, satisfying, fast-paced, worthwhile story.

Watching that trailer for POLAR EXPRESS I could only note how looooong it took for anything to happen. Details, details everywhere. You can almost hear the artists saying, "Look! Look how much work went into this scene. Doesn't it look real?"

So fucking what?

You want realism? Shoot live-action. Or make a documentary. Or, better still, stay home and watch your neighbors.

Even if it's a good movie, POLAR EXPRESS will probably tank. My hunch is that the Pixar people are already putting together the "replacement outtake reel" for THE INCREDIBLES. If they release those new clips the same weekend that POLAR EXPRESS opens then it's all over.

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Mike Blakesley
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They wouldn't do that, because POLAR comes out just 5 days after INCREDIBLES. (Stupidest scheduling of 2004, if you ask me.)

FWIW, I think Pixar said they decided to quit doing "outtake" reels after Monsters Inc. because they don't want to do the same thing over and over.

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Manny Knowles
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...doesn't mean they really won't do it...or come up with something to top that stunt...

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Brad Allen
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In the smaller markets, it's a cinch Incredibles will win hands down. I agree, Polar has never thrilled me.

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