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Tim Reed
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 - posted 06-23-2005 03:24 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In the print I saw, she said, "Take me from behind, Anakin!"

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Kevin Wale
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I've seen it at two different theatres... she said liberty both times.

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Robert Harrison
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This sort of reminds me of when I was working as an usher at the Golf Mill Theatres in Niles, Illinois in 1980 during the run of there of "The Empire Strikes Back." For most of the summer, we ran a 70 print. Towards the fall, we switched to a 35 in a smaller house and I noticed there were a couple of brief shots added, one involving Luke in a vat of liquid and an extra effects shot at the end as the camera panned over the rebel space ships.

Remember, anything is possible with George "I Think I'll Change That" Lucas. Where I work now, we still have a "Revenge of the Jedi" teaser poster. And, don't forget "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Death" being changed to "Temple of Doom" prior to release. And, Hayden Christensen being added to the end of "Jedi" on the DVD, etc.

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System Notices
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It has been 4925 days since the last post.


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David Brown
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 - posted 12-21-2018 10:54 AM      Profile for David Brown   Email David Brown   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry this is such a late reply to this topic.

The earlier quote "So this is how DEMOCRACY dies..." was the
dialog on the EARLY film release (which was allowed to be
previewed by film critics and the press). I was at a
theater here in Pittsburgh where ROTS was seen early, and
myself and all the ushers at the theater got to sit in on
that presentation too. We ALL heard (and remember) DEMOCRACY.

When opening night came, and all of the midnight shows were
pre-booked 100%, my same theater ALSO displayed the early print,
just because we wanted to show ROTS in every theater possible.
(we still had it, so why not show it)

Anyway, the OTHER (later) prints all had "LIBERTY". Several of
us all commented on this change in dialog (among others).

Anyway, once opening night had passed, (and we didnt need to show
so many 'sumultaneous' prints at the same time), we showed ONLY the later prints.

In other words, MANY people did actually hear DEMOCRACY, but only on DAY ONE -- and ONLY at the theater.

Noby else has ever heard DEMOCRADCY again after that opening date. Not at theaters, and not from the video releases (obviously)

P.S.

Anyone else remember Anakin saying...

ANAKIN: "They're getting CREAMED back there. Im going back to help"
OBI-WAN: "NO. They're doing their job...|"

8-) The CREAMED line struck a couple of us as funny, and we all looked at each other (in the darkened theater) when we heard it from the EARLY print.

DJB

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Martin Brooks
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I remember "democracy" (although my memory has fooled me before) and I did see it opening day, but not preview day. In fact, I was working for a tech firm that was responsible for checking theater and presentation quality and I saw the film numerous times that first day, since it was playing on multiple screens. It looks like I checked 10 different screens, although only two in their entirety.

While the line obviously got changed at some point, I doubt very much if it was the first week because if they sent a new DCP, we would have been sent back to re-check the movie. If I had to guess, I'd bet it got changed when it went to home media.

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Marcel Birgelen
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Well, your memory plays all kinds of tricks with you.

I also clearly remember "democracy" and I was somewhat amazed that I never heard it again. I remember (or I think I remember) because I found it somewhat odd to use the term "democracy" in conjuncture with the Star Wars franchise. I've seen it in the AMC Van Ness in San Francisco, roughly 3 days after its initial release.

Then again, this "first" episode is a strange mix of boring "intergalactic politics" and childish innuendo at something that could've been great.

It's a bit similar to the common confusion regarding Episode IV:

Darth Vader never actually said: "Luke, I am your father.", rather he said: "No, I am your father." *

I've always remembered it that way, but scores of people tend to differ on that one. It has even been used as "proof" of parallel universes due some failed quantum experiments or whatnot. [Wink]

* Should I've said "Spoiler Alert"?

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Helmut Maripuu
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/16/upshot/audio-clip-yanny-laurel-debate.html

funny if you place the arrow where the sound changes from Laurel to Yanny and you walk around the room!

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Allan Young
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quote: Marcel Birgelen
It's a bit similar to the common confusion regarding Episode IV:

Darth Vader never actually said: "Luke, I am your father.", rather he said: "No, I am your father." *

I've always remembered it that way, but scores of people tend to differ on that one. It has even been used as "proof" of parallel universes due some failed quantum experiments or whatnot.

* Should I've said "Spoiler Alert"?

No, but you should probably have said "Episode V".

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Marcel Birgelen
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Well, it's that odd numbering scheme that gets me all the time.

Then they also started to mix directors between those two Star-franchises... Simply too much for my feeble brain.

But yeah, it was "V", or "Empire"... the one commonly considered to be the best of the bunch.

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