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Author Topic: We got rid of our Burn out projectionist Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 07-21-2005 09:02 PM                     A long time ago.... We had some gang-bangers (watchin a gang-banger flic) light up some joints in a 20-plex where I was a projectionist. The stench (I cannot stand the smell of weed) was sooo dense that it actually drifted out of the auditorium and into the lobby! Of course there were customer complaints. Anyhow, the police were called and responded. While the reefer ashes were at their feet, and they were obviously stoned, the police failed to arrest them because they were not physically holding the evidence. These gang-bangers also harrassed some female customers that complained about them, as well as some female theatre employees. And this failed to get any action from the cops. Despite the fact that they were escorted from the premisis, they did loom around the theatre past closing, intimidating both customers and theatre employees. Thanks for your WONDERFUL HELP...TPD! K.  |  IP: Logged Jim Ziegler Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 753 From: West Hollywood, CA Registered: Jul 99 posted 07-22-2005 05:44 PM                     Sounds like some lazy officers. Even if they couldn't make the pot charge stick (which they could have), sure AZ has a law against public intoxication or disorderly conduct.  |  IP: Logged Alan Dallas Film Handler Posts: 48 From: Prescott Valley, AZ Registered: Jul 2004 posted 08-05-2005 07:16 AM                     Public intoxication is the appearance of a person who is under the influence of drugs or alcohol in a place open to the general public. In most American jurisdictions, public intoxication is considered a misdemeanor. However... Arizona state law has no public intoxication laws and does not permit any city police to remove intoxicated individuals from the streets or public places, intoxicated individuals must commit a crime before they can be arrested. In Will's case above the "Evidence" for a Possesion arrest got smoked up. May have been a case for "Igniting a flamable matertial inside an enclosed space" however. But thats stretching it even with witnesses. There is one thing your Theatre can do in AZ state though. You can have the Police remove and detain an individual(s) for "Trespassing". A Trespasser is anyone you do not want to have access to your property. You can press charges for Trespassing easily in AZ. May need to check with your local Police dept. how they handle Trespassing cases but if its like in my neck of the woods here in AZ when we ask a disruptive customer to leave(complete with a Re-admit Pass) we also get their name and a description and we inform them to please not return for that day or the Police will be contacted and Trespassing charges will be brought forth.  |  IP: Logged Jim Ziegler Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 753 From: West Hollywood, CA Registered: Jul 99 posted 08-05-2005 06:29 PM                     In most states they could probably also be cited for violations of fire codes prohibiting smoking in auditoriums...  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-05-2005 06:31 PM                     quote: Jim Ziegler Sounds like some lazy officers. Even if they couldn't make the pot charge stick (which they could have), sure AZ has a law against public intoxication or disorderly conduct. Geez Jim just think about it. If they arrested the guys, then where would they get their weed from???  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-05-2005 06:49 PM                     quote: Phil Hill But Mike, there's no proof it was him. If someone is habitually smoking pot on the job it would be pretty easy to get the proof. Getting it on video would be pretty easy. You don't have to try to hide some MiniDV camcorder with the play button pressed. Just set up a little WiFi video camera with its own built in wireless 802.11g server. Plug it in anywhere on site. Aim it remotely. And catch the on-the-job stoner in the act. Those little cameras actually scare me a bit. They could really unleash the "big brother is watching you" spectre a great deal.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 08-05-2005 08:34 PM                  Sorry Bobby, but I think you're smoking some of that I-30 stuff yourself. WITHOUT a sworn peace officer there (even "undercover"), live, in person, the camera would only show that there was *something* there/smoked/etc. It would be the doper's word against yours as to what it was... MJ or oregano. And a "Citizen's Arrest" would open you up to an expensive court battle and possibly a lawsuit. Also, if YOU tried to collect the "evidence," YOU are the one going to get busted for possession. My prior suggestion IS the BEST course of action... Adam will help.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-05-2005 08:55 PM                        The police are almost completely useless to society, as are druggies. Best to take matters into your own hands. Eliminate (permanantly) the stoners. The world has no use for their presence, and they will be missed by nobody, guaranteed.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-06-2005 12:21 AM                     quote: Phil Hill Sorry Bobby, but I think you're smoking some of that I-30 stuff yourself. WITHOUT a sworn peace officer there (even "undercover"), live, in person, the camera would only show that there was *something* there/smoked/etc. Given the way said stoner was described in his practices, catching him in the act probably would have been very easy. People are creatures of habit. The manager or whoever could record video of the stoner doing his thing, show it to the cops and at least raise their suspicions and then conduct a sting on the dude. Normal people take a coffee break at a particular time. This guy smokes pot like clockwork. Just have a black and white come by, watch the life Wi-Fi feed of the dude toking it up and then go in and bust his ass for being so stoopid. I, too, have nothing against someone who wants to smoke marijuana on their own time. It's not proven to be addictive or nearly as harmful as legal cigarettes. It also doesn't deserve to be put in the same class as other dangerous "hard" drugs like methamphetamine or cocaine. Still, it impairs your functions like crazy, thus it shouldn't be acceptable for anyone to be high on the job. It is at least very similar to someone getting drunk on the job. If someone shows up at my workplace drunk or gets drunk on the clock they get fired immediately. That's probably what should have happened to this guy at the very least.  |  IP: Logged

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