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Pravin Ratnam
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With DTS disks, why cant theaters just play one showing in english and the rest in german instead of all dubbed showings? You would think it would be easy to mix and match showings based on demand.

My cousins tell me this dubbing crap has gone overboard in India. Despite increased globalization, it is actually harder to catch an undubbed English movie in India if you got a midlevel city compared to 20 years ago. The only improvement is movies get there faster.

As far as languages, I find German easier to speak(or in my case imitate) compared to French. French, HK and Japanese movies make up most of my foreign viewing, yet I find French and Chinese the hardest to pronounce while Japanese and German among the easier ones. Spanish is pretty easy to imitate.

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Mike Perju
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There is also a small theater in Frankfurt that shows english films... actually it is an old big theater converted into 8 auditoriums. I think it was called the Plaza, but it's been a while and I could be wrong.

In germany when , theaters run English prints, they attract no patrons. A dubbed print can make the difference between a sold out run and 15 partons showing up for the run.

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Michael Schaffer
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quote: Pravin Ratnam
With DTS disks, why cant theaters just play one showing in english and the rest in german instead of all dubbed showings? You would think it would be easy to mix and match showings based on demand.
They could, and it was tried, but it turned out to be more practical to have locations dedicated to OVs rather than mix dubbed and OVs. People always got confused about the showtimes and which shows were what. You can't really plan shows based "on demand" anyway. It is very hard to predict what people want to see, and when and in what version.

quote: Mike Perju
In germany when , theaters run English prints, they attract no patrons. A dubbed print can make the difference between a sold out run and 15 partons showing up for the run.
No, it doesn't. All the OV locations I know actually do very good business. They have their regular customers who know where to go for what they want to see. Other cinemas very rarely if ever run OVs side by side with dubbed versions, so for them, that difference is never made.

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Christian Appelt
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quote: Mike Perju
There is also a small theater in Frankfurt that shows english films... actually it is an old big theater converted into 8 auditoriums. I think it was called the Plaza, but it's been a while and I could be wrong.
It's called TURM PALAST (tower palace), because it is located near a medieval watchtower of the city (Eschenheimer Turm).

Frankfurt / Eschenheimer Turm

Used to be a large single screen, in the late 1950s a smaller theatre called STUDIO 5 was added. During the 1970/80s, a number of really laughable smaller auditoriums were added, they should be avoided.

Turm-Palast (scroll down, please)

TURM 1: A nice medium-sized theatre in red, loud air conditioning, adequate seating comfort.

TURM 7: (former STUDIO 5) has stadium-type seating, a very big screen for a small auditorium.

AVOID theatres #2 to #6, unless you want to cry bitter tears. Projection quality is uncertain on all screens because the chain that owns the place has been pennypinching for years. If something happens, complain and hope for the best.

The best place to see English, French and numerous other original language versions is the German Film Museum:



About Deutsches Filmmuseum

The german Filmmuseum generally runs OVs when available, ranging from silent movies, Hollywood studio classics to new productions from all countries. Projection is OK (2000ft. changeover, Bauer U4C, magnetic sound and 70mm projection available). Playdates and film data can be found here:
Kinoprogramm September 2005

Then there is a cozy 1940s style theatre at Sachsenhausen in the south of Frankfurt (the place where you may be asked to drink the notorious local bitter cider called "Ebbelwoi" [Big Grin] ) called HARMONIE (Dreieichstrasse 54). They often show both original and dubbed versions, but it depends on print availability.

Harmonie Kinos schedule

Sometimes, local multiplexes will do single OV screenings, so it's worth to search for an "OV" designation at the plexes like CineStar Metropolis, Kinopolis (out of town in the west of Frankfurt).

When you read local cinema ads, look for these designations:

OmU (Originalfassung mit Untertiteln)
= original version with German subtitles

OV or OF (the latter is "Original-Fassung")

OmeU (Originalfassung mit englischen Untertiteln)
= non-english original version with English subtitles

Frankfurt cinema schedules and ads are on bright yellow posters with a bold headline KINO SERVICE FRANKFURT. Film ratings can be found after the expression FSK (e.g.: FSK 16 - PG; FSK 18 - adults only; the letters "O.A." mean "no age restriction, for general audiences).

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Mike Perju
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Hi Christian,

Palast.. Plaza, close enough! :-)

We used to have a few multiplexes that were way worse that! Imagine Turm Palast's #6, but with a 2 meter rear-screen projection setup (the matte glass used was 1.85:1, and would have to accomodate scope letterboxes, Yuk!)

Later, Mike

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Christian Appelt
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Until the mid-1990s, three small theatres were located at the Frankfurt international airport, close to the then famous "Dorian Gray" night club.
In AIRPORT CINEMA #1 they had a small RP setup (about 9 ft.) like you described, and projector noise was quite annoying. It's just unbelievable what audiences accepted during the 1980s...but maybe you are grateful to see any movie at all when your flight is delayed for 5 hours! [Wink]

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Louis Bornwasser
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My wife, ex German language teacher in the U.S., keeps her German language skills intact by listening to internet radio. Her currenty favorite is Radio Steiermark in Austria.

Her computer is rebroadcast on FM in the house so that she is not tied to a computer. Louis

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