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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

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 - posted 07-14-2006 02:23 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John, I'M JOKING! (Ref to: Digital Cinema)

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Bill Enos
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 - posted 07-15-2006 07:45 PM      Profile for Bill Enos   Email Bill Enos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'll agree, shooting a DVD thru a home use color wheel DLP machine is definitly inferior to GOOD 16. Project those toons with a 2k cinema machine, not a $600 home machine, no comparison.

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Cameron Glendinning
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 - posted 07-19-2006 07:30 AM      Profile for Cameron Glendinning   Email Cameron Glendinning   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bill, How come my $35,000 e cinema projector out performs your more expensive d cinema projector in scope? do you think its the DVD progressive scan mode?

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Cameron Glendinning
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well perhaps its the PAL diference, 576 lines verses 480 for NTSC, that gives me a fantastic DVD scope image [Smile]
But that does remind me that 16mm has got a resolution well in excess of that, otherwise it would not have been considered the High Definition production medium that kodak have sold it as to the television stations.
Bill what sort of lens did you have on your 16mm & size of xenon bulb when you did that test?
what age is your d projector?

cheers cameron

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Bill Enos
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The D-Cinema machine was using the composit output from the DVD player as due the need for a software upgrade prevents the D-Cinema projector from accepting a Pscan or S-Video input. DVDs seem to run a wide range in image quality. At scope widths the Pscan and S-Video are much better of course than composite.

The 16 used was an Eiki EX6000 with a 1K lamp. The lens was a Kowa Prominar-16 1:1.2/50 with a Sankor Zoom .75-1.25 at the low end of its range, it is used to demagnify somewhat from the output of the prime lens. The projector has less than 500 hours on it.

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Cameron Glendinning
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Thanks Bill [Smile] Sounds like you have a very well equiped bio box.

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