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Mike Spaeth
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Jesse....

That won't do anything for the movie-going public...

Today, you need screen count in order to give people the selection they DEMAND.

Classic case of "film handler's taste" vs. "general public's taste."

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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quote: Bobby Henderson
Hmmm. Not paying the annual certification renewal fee?
Fair enough.

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Sam D. Chavez
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These theatres were made to show 70mm to its best advantage and were set up to be roadshow houses. Good sight lines etc. They were constructed none too well with plywood risers but served the purpose and were the signature for the circuit. Some of these theatres opened in something like 90 days from groundbreaking with the truss style construction.

A disastrous roadshow movie "Hello Dolly" signaled the end of the hard ticket era. Syufy started partitioning the round houses into half circles and sometimes triangles. Often the seats did not point at the screen. Surround coverage was bizarre with one dividing wall and one half dome wall.

At their best, Syufy bought the very best equipment, paid the highest wages and got the best operators for their money.

Once the roadshow era ended they set out to eliminate the union and were successful. Along the way all the high standards in the front and back of the house went seriously down hill for a time.

The sons taking over completely changed the culture and it once again was a pleasure to see a movie at a Century theatre.

It's only my opinion, but I was there for most of it, either as an operator or technician. RIP.

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Scott D. Neff
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I can't see there being very many anti-trust issues. Century and Cinemark hardly compete, the only city they both exist in as direct competitors is Corpus Christi, TX.

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Carl Martin
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quote: Mike Spaeth
Today, you need screen count in order to give people the selection they DEMAND.

Classic case of "film handler's taste" vs. "general public's taste."

the selection of what... showtimes? increased screen count sure hasn't resulted in a better selection of titles.

maybe the general public doesn't DEMAND superior auditoriums when comment cards are filled out or surveys taken, but surely they appreciate seeing films in them whether they can articulate that or not. they might even come back.

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Scott Norwood
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What Carl said. Restoring the dome theatres to their original state would benefit the public by providing a unique and special venue for viewing films which would offer a distinct alternative from the generic multiplex. Choice is a good thing. Not everyone wants a generic 8-16 stadium-seated multiplex that is showing current mainstream product.

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Dennis Benjamin
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I dealt with Century when I lived in Vegas. I hired a few of their people when I opened a theatre there. The ONLY good thing I ever saw out of Century was the self-serve concession stands. I don't know what happened to them over the years - but the Drive-In in Vegas 'sucked' big time. I was never that impressed with their theatres. I'd say it may have been time for a change.

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Michael Coate
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quote: Sam D. Chavez
These theatres were made to show 70mm to its best advantage and were set up to be roadshow houses.
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Whoever does get control of Century needs to restore all of the old dome theaters that were chopped in half more than 25 years ago!
Over the years I've seen movies at several of the "Century Domes" including those in San Jose, Las Vegas, Reno, Sacramento and, of course, Orange. By the time I got to Sacramento, the Dome screens had been split. The two big domes in Orange, however, where I may have seen more movies than any other theatre in Southern California, managed to stay intact. That is, until the company decided to demolish the place. (I'll never forgive Century for that!)

Here's a nice "flashback" article on Century's Orange Cinedome.

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THE FINAL CURTAIN FOR THE CINEDOME

By Bill Kallay

The inevitable coming of bulldozers happened this April [1999] when the Orange Cinedome [Los Angeles, USA] was demolished. The once grand theater, which opened in 1969, was a victim of the current craze of megaplexes across America. Time was kind to the theater, until its owner, Century Theaters, closed it in favor of an elaborate behemoth down the road called the Century 25 Stadium Theaters. Going to the movies will not be the same in Orange County, California.

The theater was unique in that its two main auditoriums were large domes, featuring 863 seats each and large curved screens. Over the course of thirty years, it was not uncommon to see 70mm films shown in them. What is somewhat humorous is that those theaters also had stadium seating from opening day until its closure in early 1999. Isn't the craze now called "stadium seating?"

The theater expanded on a periodic basis over the years, eventually going from 2 theaters to eleven by 1992. The complex itself was consistently renovated and upgraded. In the early 1970s, the large domes featured early 70mm films such as "Camelot" and an exclusive Quintaphonic Sound presentation of "Tommy" in 1975. By the late '70s, Cinedome featured 70mm Six Track Dolby Stereo and Dolby Stereo in most of its auditoriums. During the 1980s, Cinedome was the theater to see films presented in 70mm. On certain summer periods, the theater would run four 70mm prints of different movies at the same time. The two large domes, a 500-plus seat standard auditorium and a smaller dome were large gauge equipped.

More than likely if a film had a 70mm print available, the Cinedome acquired it. During the initial re-lease of "Return of the Jedi", two 70mm prints were run. The domes were very popular with filmgoers, well before the stadium seat craze took over the nation. Patrons enjoyed the unhampered sightlines and the curved screens. The layout of the domes, much like a curved amphitheater, was spacious and luxurious. Plush curtains and entry music greeted movie goers, at least until slide shows took over the pre-movie screen. Though the Cindedome wasn't perfect, it was a theater one remembered even if the film was bad. The floors in the domes were hollow, so walking on them was like walking on a wooden box. Going to the bathrooms was always an interesting experience.

Few theaters I've encountered allowed me to do my business and still hear the loud movie soundtrack in the dome above me. And Cinedome prided itself on pre-popped popcorn.

But Cinedome was a modern movie palace. Sitting in the domes, one was always comfortable due the rocking chairs the theater had. The dome's ceiling seemed like it went on into infinity. And the presentation Cinedome was a treat. Even on 35mm stereo releases, the theater would always rock. But it was on 70mm presentation that Cinedome was legend. In "Raiders of the Lost Ark", the boulder rumbled over your head. In "Ghostbusters", Slimer floated through your chest and back into the large surround speaker behind you. In "True Lies", you felt the bullet casings falling on the bathroom floor in Arnold's in-famous fight.

The theater was very profitable and consistently busy, even during the week. Why Century chose to shutter the theater rather than expand it baffles fans of the theater (there are many), but perhaps made sense for the company. There was room on the property to expand and build a parking structure (parking was never a strong suit at Cinedome). They instead chose to build a 25-screen complex on the site of an old drive-in. Add to that restaurants and shops next to it, Century made both a jump into 21st century megaplexing and added profits. The new theater is popular, but lacks the features of Cinedome. Most of the theaters are small and the screens are fitted for 1.85:1 aspect ratios. There are constant sellouts, despite popular films being shown on multiple screens. Cinedome didn't have that problem most of the time.

As the bulldozers tore out the projection booths, the domes became nothing more than covered amphitheaters. The screens were indiscriminately ripped to shreds. The speaker stands that once held the huge speakers became jagged towers of steel. The fairly new plush red seats were covered with dust and roofing tiles. Orange County is a place where any building over thirty years old is demolished. Cinedome fell right in line with that tradition. It's reminiscent of the film "Logan's Run" where no one was supposed to live over the age of 30.

When the theater closed, some patrons came to the theater in disbelief that it was closed. Others quipped that it was rundown and in a bad location. That wasn't true. It was in good shape, equipped with Dolby Digital, DTS and SDDS sound. The location was perfect, for it sat between two freeways. In fact, Interstate 5 allowed patrons to exit right at the entrance to the Cinedome parking lot.

Time hasn't been kind to 70mm or the theaters it played in. All over Southern California, theaters equipped for 70mm have been closed in favor of megaplexes. This has occurred in rapid succession in less than five years. Exhibition chains favor catering to the masses, which is fine. But they've also created an atmosphere where there is a sameness to going to the movies. Cinedome and theaters like it were always one step above the norm.

The Cinedome will be missed by movie fans, especially 70mm fans. The feeling is akin to being a baseball fan who attends a classic ballpark, only to see if torn down in favor of a modern stadium. Fortunately, there are Cinedomes located in Northern California. But then again, maybe they'll meet the same fate as the Orange Cinedome.

The Cinedome had the distinction of first class presentation, great picture and the latest sound systems available.

Original article with images. And here's another page of Cinedome images including some vintage advertisements.

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Jack Ondracek
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quote: Dennis Benjamin
I don't know what happened to them over the years - but the Drive-In in Vegas 'sucked' big time.
Not that there are many of them left (Syufy may be the exception), but there aren't a lot of corporate drive-ins. The independent "mom & pops" seem to be best at it, probably because they're usually working there themselves.

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Jesse Skeen
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They had a dome theater here built in the 80s called the Cinedome also, wasn't as big as the 60s-era theaters. It started out with 5 and expanded to 8 domes, then in 1992, when I thought this sort of thing had gone out of style, they split one of them in half! Then about 3 years ago they built a new 16-screen regular-style cinema next to it and tore down the old theaters once it opened. Seems like very little thought went into the new place, as some of the auditoriums are ridiculously small and ALL 16 screens are common-width, even the 2 "big" ones! They've never had the house lights properly set up either; every time I've gone there they click straight off and come right back on again at the end, instead of dimming down and rising up like they should.

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Brad Miller
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I personally hate the domes. I feel it does horrible things to the acoustics and makes the picture appear even smaller than it is.

That being said, of all the chain theaters I have seen, Century as a whole puts on the best presentation of the chains when you average them all together. (There are always exceptionally good or bad theaters.) I have a feeling the quality will drop a bit when Cinemark takes over. That's not saying that Cinemark is bad, but they tend to not worry about the details and just get the show on screen with a "looks pretty decent" mentality.

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Dan Lyons
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I miss the Cinedome in Orange. The last thing I ever saw there was EVITA on opening day, pretty sure it was Xmas day. Big picture and BIG SOUND. Damn them for tearing the place down. The site and parking lot sat vacant for years; they finally started building something there about a year ago. [puke]
Well, better torn down than twinned.

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David Stambaugh
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I saw "Mrs. Doubtfire" in a twinned dome (might have been in Reno). What a wretched place.

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Jack Ondracek
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United Artists had a couple of domed theatres in downtown Seattle... the UA70 and UA150. They're gone now... torn down a couple of years back.

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Alex Grueneberg
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Yikes, this doesn't sound good for me at all. Guess I'll stock up on Film Guard while I still can. Does any one know if we can expect to see a change in signage?

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