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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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 - posted 01-02-2007 05:49 PM      Profile for Caleb Johnstone-Cowan   Email Caleb Johnstone-Cowan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"-99% of them are SCOPE prints "

Trailers are in scope too. Yash Raj usually attach one in front of the feature.

"I have it on good authority, that the sound is originally recorded in mono, then digitalised for cinema release."

Apparently the entire soundtrack is done using ADR in most films. You definitely don't get surround effects, still can't believe that mono would be used.

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Alex Cross
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Hi Jim,

Almost forgot, be careful some Indian distributors have a nasty habit of sticking trailers just after the intermission! We've had that on more occasions than I care to think about.

Not only that some of the prints, even a brand new release have had only a mono soundtrack, no SRD at all.

Hope this helps.

Alex

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Gordon McLeod
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Most location recording is mono stems anyway
directional dialogue died out (regretably) years ago
I have not seen a "mono" soundtrack on a current bollywood release in years
All that I have delt with are DTS and many SRD and SDDS as well and most with EX channels
Since the dynamic range of digital is finite I would question if you system was properly designed or calibrated if they caused a failure

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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Also watch out if you ever get programmed two screens of an Indian film, you will probably get one print to bicycle between the two.

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David Graves
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Regarding Alex's comments-

-Our audiences do like them loud, but you're right- they're mixed exceptionally loudly. If you normally run a 7.0, 4.5-5.5 will be the rough equivalent for most films. Still, if you're blowing subs, I'd make sure you get everything calibrated as soon as you can- that's not good in any case.

-As for the mixes- I strongly disagree. They very well may loop most of them, but I tech the majority of the prints we play, and the majority sound amazing. Dialog is crystal clear, ambient effects abound, and they are the only films I've heard that actually make audible use of the EX system. The musical numbers in particular are amazingly dynamic, with true 5.1 channel mixes. Granted, we only play the biggest titles, so I'm sure the non-blockbusters still look and sound like crap.

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Alex Cross
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David,

We'll have to agreed to disagree. I've played these films everyday for over 6 years, and played some very bizarre films at that! But, we're all here to offer our opinions, and you're entitled to yours.

Regards Alex

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David Graves
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Hey, if everyone agreed, this would be the dullest board in internet history. [Big Grin]

Surely we can agree on one thing- some of the actresses are the most beautiful women on the face of the earth.

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Alex Cross
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David,

Hell ya! Couldn't agree with yoy more on that one [Wink]

Alex

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Justin Gorka
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We, herein the UK, play Bollywoods weekly. The actual picture qualit and sound is normally good.
But..... take care if you have to move them to a different platter. Most are too big to use a print move and the film itself is always extemely spongy with a life of it's own. I normally plate off a few reels, from experience, the stuff has a habit of dropping in the middle.
You have been warned.......

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Nathan Fettes
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I was amazed at the picture quality of the Indian film that I received. I was literally blown away and babling about how the picture was so damn crisp. Amazing. Why don't wide release prints look this good.

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Gordon McLeod
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the reason they look so good is they are printed off the o negative not a dupe because the print run is small enough for the camera neg to withstand it

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Richard Fowler
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Average print run is less than 200 on the O neg. They cycle to films regionally to type A / B / C rated cinemas, so the small or low grossing locations get the worst presentation. On some DTS prints you can get the player to play a disk from another feature since some labs somtimes reuse a DTS timing track. The lab work is quite good.

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