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Mark J. Marshall
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quote: Thomas Pitt
Also, with so many movies coming out in digital, people have cracked the format and made pirate copies this way.
What does this mean? Are you talking about copying the digital source at the studio (or some other intermediary), or copying the digital "print" at the theater level? If the latter, I'm pretty sure you are mistaken.

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Louis Bornwasser
There is no doubt that it will be done. "Bigger lock just needs a bigger key." Louis
Of course, but that wasn't what the guy said. He was claiming that pirate copies have already been made in this way, which is simply a bunch of crap.

quote: Mark J. Marshall
What does this mean? Are you talking about copying the digital source at the studio (or some other intermediary), or copying the digital "print" at the theater level? If the latter, I'm pretty sure you are mistaken.
The former is highly unlikely, requiring access to someone who works inside the studio who likely is extremely skilled. Since the equipment is relatively new, there's gonna be a "smallish" group of people that know how to use the machines so it'd be somewhat difficult to find someone to do the deed. And even then, since these people are skilled, they're gonna most likely be well-paid and as such unlikely to jump ship.

And the latter simply hasn't happened yet.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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quote: Thomas Pitt
pirates tend to make copies of the review DVDs that are sent to the BBFC for rating
I think the BBFC reviews most theatrical releases in 35mm, I've had crossovers from them in projection and when signing for the delivery when the title has had a very limited release (less than twenty cinemas in the country say).

Anyway, back to topic, can someone explain what you mean by 'sneak' previewing, and how the grosses from them can get attached to another feature.

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Chris Slycord
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A sneak preview is when you have a movie being played (and usually only 1 showing) earlier than the official release date. Usually, they do it 1-2 weeks prior to the release date.

And unlike trade screenings, sneaks are paid for by the viewer.

Then with the grosses getting attached to another movie it probably works like this:
Sometimes the sneak is a double feature (one ticket, 2 movies). So you buy a ticket to the sneak preview and if you want, you get to stay and see the next showing in that auditorium. So they could include the grosses from the sneak into the grosses for the next showing since the people officially bought a ticket that's for both.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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Many big films come out on the Thursday or sometimes Wednesday before the main friday release, for example Die Hard 4 opens tomorrow here. Never have the double feature thing though, that sounds like a really good deal.

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Lyle Romer
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quote: Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
Never have the double feature thing though, that sounds like a really good deal.
You'd think it was a good deal but I've never seen more than 10-20% of the people tops stay for the second feature. I guess it's a combo of people having already seen the second feature and not wanting to stay for a minimum 20 minute intermission and then another feature length movie. If they were matinees more people would stay but they are always 7-8 PM shows.

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Paul Konen
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Most of all my sneaks for the last 4+ years or so are "Fill and Spill". Fill the aud for the sneak and then empty to play a regular show afterward.

The days of a Double Feature seem to be gone. It used to be that you might have a 5 minute break between films to allow the "bio" breaks and then start again.

Then it progressed into you had to publish the second showtime because most of the people left after the sneak.

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