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Topic: Cell phone idiocy erupts into fight among hundreds of teens
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Frank Angel
Film God
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 09-09-2007 03:17 PM
quote: Bastiaan Fleerkate
Make a Faraday cage of your auditorium!
It solves every problem of spill-over...
And THEN use a jammer. Unless the FCC or whatever regulatory agency is sending out detection squads into your theatre, there is no way they can detect the jammer.
I say the whole idea that somehow there has to be a guarantee of cell service every place on the planet is ludicrous. Most of the basement and first floor of our theatre complex had very poor or no cell reception. What did people do before cell phones? Given how many structures like our theatres naturally attenuate cell signals, it should be very easy to just add a little more signal-blocking material to passively "jam" cell signals. And aren't other mobile devices like walkie-talkie's supposed to be on separate bands? Sounds to me like there is probably a cell carrier company pushing behind this legislation. Can't they write a law that allows low-level active jamming that doesn't ban it but puts in parameters about how far it can radiate and how much it can radiate, just like the FCC has provisions for low level or "carrier current" radio broadcast. It's allowed but it has strict parameters that prevent it from interfering with other types of transmission. Seems like that kind of approach is more appropriate than total ban.
I do like the idea of a "personal" jammer that you can carry around with you -- the minute you hear someone on a cell phone in the theatre with you, you just flip the thing on in you pocket and that's the end of THAT nonsense. And I wouldn't be to worried about being caught by authorities; I mean, it's pretty hard to miss a big FCC truck with a triangulation antenna on top driving into the theatre lobby. Besides, stamping out stupidity and arrogant behavior is everyone's responsibility. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
quote: Mike Heenan
Yeah but I bet alot of teens during your generation were jerks and aholes too. And shouldn't the focus be on the theater that allowed many of these teens into the film unescorted by a parent?
No, no they were not. Luckly for us, we never had to even think that someone would have a gun in school or that riots would break out in a theatre we were attending. We had our own shortcomings, that's for sure (we believed everything our government told us without question -- or at least some did), but annoying the crap out of everyone at a movie or turning the theatre into a brawling free-for-all -- if that ever did actually happen, I never heard about it.
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Joel N. Weber II
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 115
From: Somerville, MA, USA
Registered: Dec 2005
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posted 09-10-2007 09:08 AM
Passive insulation probably would affect two way radios used by the theater.
Assuming that the radios operate without a repeater, if the passive insulation is on the outer walls of the building, and not on the interior walls, it might well make the radios work better within the building, but it might make communicating with someone in the parking lot more difficult.
(With a repeater, you can probably strategically locate repeater antennas in all the right places to work well, but it's hard to imagine that the average multiplex is going to spend thousands of dollars on a repeater system with many voting recievers and multiple transmitters.)
With an active jammer, that depends on how well the radios reject the signal from the jammer, which is a matter of the design of the radios. More expensive radios that also happen to only recieve in one band would likely be the best in ability to operate in spite of an active jammer.
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Jeremy Jorgenson
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From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 09-16-2007 07:33 PM
There were good kids in the 70s, 80s and 90s ... there are good kids now. There were jerks in the 70s, 80s and 90s, there are jerks now. One article from the Sun Times written about Hobart IN isn't going to convince me that the entire youth of today is bad ... blah blah, anyway my point wasn't going to have anything to do with that, but with this:
quote: Sun Times article
"Halloween" is rated R by the Motion Picture Association of America, meaning children younger than 17 aren't allowed to see the movie without a parent or guardian.
quote: Chris Slycord
R means "Under 17 must be accompanied by parent or guardian."
quote: Mike Blakesley
That's up to each location to enforce as they see fit. If the management of that location had any brains, they would enforce that rule to the letter.
I don't even know if I'd call it a "rule", just a suggestion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the MPAA does not have any legal status to
a) prohibit certain aged individuals from seeing a film that they (the MPAA) have rated
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b) penalize a theatre owner or chain for allowing a certain age group into a particularly rated film.
Certain municipalities may have adopted laws which adhere to the MPAA guidelines (particularly in NC-17 cases, but occasionally for R rated films too). But, so far as I know, there is no federal law that prohibits those under 17 to watch an R rated film unless accompanied by an adult.
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