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Sean McKinnon
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If you have no bins then how do the customers see the product? The advantage of popcorn is that it touches all the senses sight, smell, sound, and taste. If they don't see it in the bins I would think that wouldn't be good. Also, what do you do with the corn you pop? Do you have to keep turning the popper on and off most poppers have pretty small bins? I hope the cleaning company knows how to properly clean the poppers as there is a right way then a lot of wrong ways that will damage the kettle!

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Chris Slycord
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My old theater (8-plex) had 2 poppers and one warmer. The second popper rarely needed to get used except on the holidays. The warmer was simply filled from the popper.

Right before we were ready to close we'd bag a small bit just in case a huge rush came in; then start cleaning a little bit before closing time.

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Rene Ferron
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Chris did you taste some stale popcorn when you took that picture of yours ? heheheh..

Thx very much for all the replies.

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Dennis Benjamin
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I gotta chime in here:

National Amusements (back in the 90's) popped once a week. I was appalled at this fact and decided to do a taste test (like Chris mentioned). More people did prefer the day old and week old stuff over the fresh.

I have actually popped it fresh for people - right in front of them- and then they have said "Something is wrong with it". So there is something to the moisture ratio mentioned previously.

The brand of the corn and the brand/type of the oil is actually the most important part of good popcorn. When I was in Vegas, we used Orville Redenbacher (30lb bags) and Odell's Canola/Coconut blend. We were voted best Movie Theatre popcorn in Vegas those two years I was there. Yeah - it was a bigger cost - but it was worth it. I have not tasted popcorn that good since I was there.

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Mike Blakesley
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The Carmikes in Billings have poppers in their stands, but when things get real busy they haul in extra popcorn -- get this -- in rubber garbage cans, and dump it into the sale bins. Very appetizing.

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Don Furr
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It was a common practice in my theatres to bag popcorn in a large plastic bag at the end of the night and mix it with the first fresh pop of the next day. If your heaters are working properly (we always yanked out the standard coils and installed the BIG ones)I would challenge anyone to detect that is was a "mixed" bag.

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About leaving the popcorn in the warmers, the indoor I had started at, when I first started there, would bag up their popcorn, but what was in the warmer was left there and covered overnight. It wasn't until (I don't recall when, but probably in Jan. or Feb. when it was slow) the popcorn in the bin had not gotten low, nor cleaned out for a couple of weeks, and they decided to clean it. They found a dead rat at the bottom of the warmer. [puke] That started a new rule (and rightly so) that all popcorn in the warmers would be bagged back up every night, and the warmers cleaned out.

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Darryl Spicer
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quote: Sean McKinnon
If you have no bins then how do the customers see the product?
You can't miss it, it's right in front of you. Up to 5 popcorn poppers full of popcorn on the weekend. They have pretty good size kettles on them. Not sure off the top of my head what the size is but I know they are not the smaller kettles I have seen before.

We use Redenbacher corn and Rico's popping oil.

They don't take very long to warm up and start popping. Stay on top of it and you never run out.

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Allison Parsons
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What IS exactly the reason why theaters mix old and new popcorn? You can't tell me that they're saving tons and tons of money by doing it.

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Darryl Spicer
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it all boils down to what they call yields. Basically how much raw corn and oil was used to serve up all your popcorn sales. If you are using to much raw corn then too much is being thrown away or wasted in some way. Same thing is involved with the soda fountain. If you are using to much syrup then you are not putting enough ice in the cup.

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Jeremy Weigel
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quote: Darryl Spicer
If you are using to much syrup then you are not putting enough ice in the cup.
Or your brix ratio is too rich.

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Darryl Spicer
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quote: Jeremy Weigel
Or your brix ratio is too rich
That too.

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Brad Miller
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quote: Scott Norwood
I truly do not understand why AMC, Regal, and the rest don't make an effort to provide really good popcorn. My experience has been that the chains always have the worst tasting corn.
I have ALWAYS felt UA was the only chain that had really great tasting popcorn...if popped properly. Only once have I had AMC popcorn that I thought was pretty good. Cinemark is decent, but something just isn't right (I think it is the oil). I used to manage UAs for several years and there definitely is an art to it, as I became the Popcorn Nazi manager (like Allison)...but damnit if we didn't get compliments every day about how F'ing good our popcorn was! [thumbsup]

I thought I would never have truly great popcorn after I left UA management since even though they had the same ingredients it wasn't the same as my slightly modified popping techniques. However I am very happy to report that last year I went by an old theater I used to work at (UA Galaxy) and the popcorn I got that day truly brought back great memories, so at least someone still remembers how to make it right. It was phenomenal.

quote: Darryl Spicer
Same thing is involved with the soda fountain. If you are using to much syrup then you are not putting enough ice in the cup.
That's just the suits being super cheap-asses. Raw materials like corn and BIBs cost virtually nothing, particularly when compared to the price the customers are paying. I firmly believe it is better to give the customer a better value and watch them happily return to the stand again and again, rather than burn them. This is one reason why when I go to a Cinemark every now and then I will no longer buy the large popcorn, because they don't do drink refills and they really like to pack that cup with ice. [Mad]

(Someone should do a comparison of how much liquid is really in a 44oz cup when the cup is filled all the way with ice vs. 1/3 or 2/3 full.)

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Monte L Fullmer
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Also depends on the popcorn/oil ratio which is 3 seed to 1 oil. Thus, if you got a PR32EDNG, Cretors 32oz President, you should be shooting in 11oz of oil for your 32 oz of seed, in a 550 degree kettle.

And also, if you use full canola oil or another kind called "Popwise", it's gonna taste pretty raunchy being more of a vegetable oil, than the heart attack creating, high cholestrol coconut oil - which really does make the popcorn taste abolutely great.

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Anslem Rayburn
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
than the heart attack creating, high cholestrol coconut oil
A slight correction is in order. Coconut oil doesn't contain any cholesterol, but is high in saturated fat which can boost bad cholesterol in your body.

1 ounce of coconut oil has 24 grams of saturated fat (121% of the RDA) while 1 ounce of canola oil has 2 grams (11% of the RDA).

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