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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 01-23-2009 01:35 PM

AMC has a 70mm IMAX theater? Did they buy it from someone else?

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Chris Slycord
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posted 01-23-2009 01:45 PM

The theater in question (Citywalk) was taken as part of the merger with Loews-Cineplex.

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John Wilson
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posted 01-23-2009 05:56 PM

There's now an IMAX MINI here in Sydney at the HOYTS complex at Fox Studios.

The normal look of wonderment that goes along with attending a screening at the other real IMAX here at Darling Harbor(with the world's largest screen no less) is replaced by all accounts by another look of wonderment upon entering the MINI auditorium...that of wondering why they just forked out a premium IMAX price when the auditorium looks no different than a regular theatre.

For the IMAX brand to survive, they've got to sort this out.

Why the hell HOYTS didn't just come up with a new name like KING KONG HOYTS or something (I know it's a dumb name but you get the idea) and just double up some 2k machines themselves is beyond me. They're paying for the IMAX name for no reason.

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Mark Lensenmayer
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posted 01-23-2009 08:24 PM

Mark Marshall said:

quote: Mark J. Marshall
AMC has a 70mm IMAX theater? Did they buy it from someone else?

AMC put in a batch of MPX units at a few of their 30-plexes in 2005. I don't believe any of them have been upgraded to digital yet.

AMC Original Imax locations:

Arizona
Phoenix — AMC Deer Valley 30 with IMAX (MPX)

California
San Francisco — AMC Loews IMAX Theatre at Metreon (Full Size Imax)

Kansas
Olathe — IMAX Theatre at AMC Studio 30 (MPX)

Michigan
Sterling Heights — IMAX Theatre at AMC Forum 30 (MPX)

New York
New York City — AMC Loews IMAX Theatre, Lincoln Square (Full size Imax)

Ohio
Columbus - IMAX Theatre at AMC Easton Town Center 30 (MPX)

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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posted 01-23-2009 08:48 PM

It is unfortunate Regal's installation of Digital IMAX at Honolulu's Dole Cannery 18 will not be in place until March. I would have love seeing BATMAN:THE DARK KNIGHT in IMAX. I guess I will have to be satisfied watching the movie on a Blue-Ray disc to see how it was presented in all of the special digital IMAX venues.

-Claude

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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 01-24-2009 07:09 AM

quote: Chris Slycord
The theater in question (Citywalk) was taken as part of the merger with Loews-Cineplex.

That makes sense.

quote: Mark Lensenmayer
AMC put in a batch of MPX units at a few of their 30-plexes in 2005. I don't believe any of them have been upgraded to digital yet.

First of all, switching from IMAX 70mm to IMAX digital can hardly be considered an "upgrade". Maybe I should have clarified, but putting an IMAX projector in a standard shaped theater doesn't make it an IMAX theater in my opinion. Thanks for the info though.

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Julie Lucero
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posted 01-24-2009 02:08 PM

quote: Paul Linfesty
how do we know which theatre is playing it in 70mm and which in digital?

Here's a DARK KNIGHT IMAX list that includes a notation for presentation type.

quote: showmanship website

ALBERTA
Calgary – Scotiabank Theatre Chinook (15/70)
Edmonton – Scotiabank Theatre West Edmonton Mall (15/70)

ARIZONA
Mesa – Dickinson Gateway 12 (15/70)
Phoenix – AMC Deer Valley 30 (15/70)
Tempe – Arizona Mills (15/70)

ARKANSAS
Little Rock – Dickinson Chenal 9 (15/70)

BRITISH COLUMBIA
Richmond – SilverCity Riverport (15/70)
Vancouver – CN IMAX (15/70)

CALIFORNIA
Anaheim – The Movie Experience 14 at Gardenwalk (15/70)
Arcadia – AMC Santa Anita 16 (digital)
Burbank – AMC Burbank 16 (digital)
Cathedral City – Desert IMAX (15/70)
Dublin – Regal Hacienda Crossings Stadium 20 (15/70)
El Dorado Hills – Regal El Dorado Hills Stadium 14 (digital)
Emeryville – AMC Bay Street 16 (digital)
Fairfield – Regal Fairfield Stadium 16 (digital)
Fresno – Regal Edwards Fresno Stadium 21 (15/70)
Irvine – Regal Edwards Irvine Spectrum Stadium 21 (15/70)
Los Angeles (Century City) – AMC Century 15 (digital)
Los Angeles (Westchester) – The Bridge: Cinema de Lux (15/70)
Monterey – Cannery Row IMAX (15/70)
Ontario – Regal Edwards Ontario Palace Stadium 22 (15/70)
Sacramento – Esquire (15/70)
San Diego – Regal Edwards Mira Mesa Stadium 18 (15/70)
San Francisco – AMC Loews Metreon 16 (15/70)
San Jose – AMC Eastridge 15 (digital)
Simi Valley – Regal Simi Valley Civic Center Stadium 16 (digital)
Stockton – Regal City Centre Stadium 16 (digital)
Torrance – AMC Del Amo 18 (digital)
Universal City – AMC Loews Universal CityWalk Stadium 19 (15/70)

COLORADO
Colorado Springs – Cinemark 17 at Carefree Circle (15/70)
Denver – Regal UA Colorado Center Stadium 9 (15/70)
Westminster – AMC Orchard 12 (digital)

CONNECTICUT
Manchester – Showcase Cinemas Buckland Hills (15/70)
Norwalk – Maritime Aquarium (15/70)

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
Washington – Samuel C. Johnson IMAX (15/70)

FLORIDA
Altamonte Springs – AMC Altamonte Mall 18 (digital)
Aventura – AMC Aventura 24 (digital)
Fort Lauderdale – Museum of Science and Discovery (15/70)
Fort Myers – Regal Gulf Coast Town Center Stadium 16 (digital)
Jacksonville – AMC Regency Square 24 (digital)
Orange Park – AMC Orange Park 24 (digital)
Orlando – Regal Pointe Orlando Stadium 20 (15/70)
St. Augustine – World Golf Hall of Fame (15/70)
St. Petersburg – Muvico Baywalk 20 (15/70)
Tallahassee – Challenger Learning Center (15/70)
Tampa – AMC Veterans Expressway 24 (digital)
Tampa – Channelside Cinemas (15/70)
Tampa – MOSI IMAX Dome (15/70)
West Palm Beach – Muvico Parisian 20 (15/70)

GEORGIA
Augusta – Regal Augusta Exchange Stadium 20 (digital)
Buford – Regal Mall of Georgia Stadium 20 (15/70)

IDAHO
Boise – Regal Edwards Boise Stadium 21 (15/70)

ILLINOIS
Batavia – Goodrich Randall 15 (15/70)
Chicago – Navy Pier IMAX (15/70)
Lincolnshire – Regal Lincolnshire Stadium 20 (15/70)
Woodridge – Cinemark at Seven Bridges (15/70)

INDIANA
Evansville – Showplace Cinemas East 18 (15/70)
Indianapolis – Indiana State Museum (15/70)
Indianapolis – Kerasotes ShowPlace 16 (15/70)
Noblesville – Goodrich Hamilton 16 (15/70)
Portage – Goodrich Portage 16 (15/70)

IOWA
Davenport – Putnam Museum (15/70)
Des Moines – Science Center of Iowa (15/70)

KANSAS
Olathe – AMC Studio 30 (15/70)

KENTUCKY
Louisville – Cinema de Lux 20: Stonybrook (15/70)

LOUISIANA
Harahan – AMC Elmwood Palace 20 (digital)
New Orleans – Entergy IMAX (15/70)

MANITOBA
Winnipeg – Portage Place (15/70)

MARYLAND
Baltimore – AMC Loews White Marsh 16 (digital)
Columbia – AMC Columbia 14 (digital)

MASSACHUSETTS
Boston – Simons IMAX (15/70)
Natick – Verizon IMAX Theater at Jordan's Furniture (15/70)
Reading – Verizon IMAX Theater at Jordan's Furniture (15/70)

MICHIGAN
Dearborn – Henry Ford Museum (15/70)
Grand Blanc – NCG Trillium Cinemas (15/70)
Grand Rapids – Celebration! Cinema Grand Rapids North (15/70)
Lansing – Celebration! Cinema Lansing (15/70)
Sterling Heights – AMC Forum 30 (15/70)
Ypsilanti – Showcase Cinemas Ann Arbor (15/70)

MINNESOTA
Apple Valley – Great Clips IMAX Theatre at the Minnesota Zoo (15/70)

MISSOURI
Kansas City – AMC BarryWoods 24 (digital)
Sappington – Wehrenberg Ronnies 20 (15/70)

NEVADA
Las Vegas – Brendan Theatres and IMAX at the Palms (15/70)
Las Vegas – Regal Red Rock Stadium 16 (15/70)
North Las Vegas – Regal Aliante Stadium 16 (digital)

NEW HAMPSHIRE
Hooksett – CineMagic Hooksett (15/70)

NEW JERSEY
Atlantic City – IMAX Theatre at Tropicana (15/70)
Cherry Hill – AMC Loews Cherry Hill 24 (digital)
Hamilton – AMC Hamilton 24 (digital)

NEW YORK
Albany – Regal Crossgates Stadium 18 (digital)
Deer Park – Regal Deer Park Stadium 16 (digital)
Garden City – Cradle of Aviation Museum (15/70)
Gates – Cinemark Tinseltown USA (15/70)
New Rochelle – Regal New Roc City Stadium 18 (15/70)
New York (Brooklyn) – Regal UA Sheepshead Bay Stadium 14 (digital)
New York (Manhattan) – AMC Empire 25 (digital)
New York (Manhattan) – AMC Loews Lincoln Square 13 (15/70)
West Nyack – Palisades Center (15/70)
White Plains – City Center 15: Cinema de Lux (15/70)
Williamsville – Regal Transit Center Stadium 18 (15/70)

NORTH CAROLINA
Raleigh – Marble Kids Museum (15/70)

NOVA SCIOTIA
Halifax – Empire (15/70)

OHIO
Columbus – AMC Easton Town Center 30 (15/70)
Springdale – Springdale 18: Cinema de Lux (15/70)

OKLAHOMA
Tulsa – Cinemark at The Tulsa (15/70)

ONTARIO
Mississauga – Coliseum Mississauga (15/70)
Ottawa – SilverCity Gloucester (15/70)
Toronto – Scotiabank Theatre Toronto (15/70)
Vaughan – Colossus Woodbridge (15/70)

OREGON
Tigard – Regal Bridgeport Village Stadium 18 (15/70)

PENNSYLVANIA
Bensalem – AMC Neshaminy 24 (digital)
Harrisburg – Whitaker Center (15/70)
Homestead – AMC Loews Waterfront 22 (digital)
King of Prussia – Regal UA King of Prussia Stadium 16 (15/70)
Philadelphia – The Franklin Institute (15/70)
Reading – R/C Reading Movies 11 (digital)
Tarentum – Cinemark Galleria at Pittsburgh Mills (15/70)

QUEBEC
Montreal – Cinema Banque Scotia Montreal (15/70)

RHODE ISLAND
Providence – Providence Place Cinemas 16 (15/70)

TENNESSEE
Knoxville – Regal Pinnacle Stadium 18 (15/70)
Nashville – Regal Opry Mills Stadium 20 (15/70)

TEXAS
Austin – Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum (15/70)
Colleyville – Colleyville Cinema Grille (15/70)
Dallas – Cinemark 17 (15/70)
Fort Worth – Fort Worth Museum of Science (15/70)
Houston – AMC Gulf Pointe 30 (digital)
Houston – Regal Edwards Marq*E Stadium 23 (15/70)
San Antonio – Santikos Palladium 19 (15/70)
Sugar Land – AMC First Colony 24 (digital)
Tomball – Santikos Silverado 19 (15/70)

UTAH
Sandy – Megaplex 17 at Jordan Commons (15/70)

VIRGINIA
Alexandria – AMC Hoffman 22 (digital)
Chantilly – Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center (15/70)
Hampton – Virginia Air & Space Center (15/70)
Virginia Beach – AMC Lynnhaven 18 (digital)
Woodbridge – AMC Potomac Mills 18 (digital)

WASHINGTON
Lacey – Regal Martin Village Stadium 16 (digital)
Seattle – Pacific Science Center Boeing & Eames (15/70)
Spokane – Riverfront Park (15/70)
Tukwila – AMC Southcenter 16 (digital)

WISCONSIN
Fitchburg – Star Cinema 18 (15/70)

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Mark Lensenmayer
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posted 01-24-2009 03:05 PM

Mark Marshall said:

quote: Mark J. Marshall
First of all, switching from IMAX 70mm to IMAX digital can hardly be considered an "upgrade". Maybe I should have clarified, but putting an IMAX projector in a standard shaped theater doesn't make it an IMAX theater in my opinion.

Perhaps "upgrade" wasn't the best word...how about "changed from 15/70 to digital".

But, I do agree on placing a 15/70 unit in a traditional auditorium. I've frequently referred to the local MPX unit as an "Imax, Jr." and I believe that is a very good description.

On another front, I thought the director of Batman didn't want the film to play in the digitial locations. At least this was true on the original release, I believe.

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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 01-24-2009 03:42 PM

I had heard that as well. I imagine the director wasn't the only one on the crew who felt that way. When you watch the behind the scenes stuff on the Blu-Ray you can hear how proud those guys are of their accomplishments - as well they should be. Other than the variable aspect ratio, I would think that a lot of the stunning results of that hard work would be lost with a digital presentation. I would be very curious to see the difference in box office revenue between the film and digital versions of this release of this movie.

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posted 01-24-2009 06:02 PM

I watched The Dark Knight in both 2K d-cinema and IMAX. I strongly prefer the 15/70mm IMAX version. I really hope The Dark Knight wins the cinematography Oscar. The crew did a lot of hard work shooting the 15/65 footage. It looks noticeably better than the 35mm stuff, even on Blu-ray.

Oh, and the idea of replacing a film-based IMAX system with a digital one is not an upgrade at all. It is a very serious DOWN-grade. IMAX Digital is not IMAX at all. The only real IMAX is the 15/70 stuff. Period.

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Chris Slycord
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posted 01-24-2009 06:03 PM

quote: Mark J. Marshall
I would be very curious to see the difference in box office revenue between the film and digital versions of this release of this movie.

It's gonna be skewed, though. If you look at sheer numbers, film will win because even when it came out, most theaters weren't digital [and I assume the same is true now]. It's nowhere near an equal number of screens. And if you go by a per-screen number then you get skewed by the fact that, as the new jokey training video tells us, "Digital is a powerful buzz-word."

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Geoff Jones
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posted 01-25-2009 10:05 PM

I saw it today at 3:45 at the UA Colorado Center Imax in Denver. The print was in excellent shape; looked brand new. The sound seemed louder than when I saw it last summer; noticeably more bass.

It still looked too dark to me. (I complained about this last summer to disinterested managers.) I got to wondering though - I sit pretty low & close (3rd or 4th row). Is there somehow less light reflection when you're sitting that low in an Imax theatre?

The crowd was small, around 30, I'd guess.

There was nothing before the movie - no trailers, and no annoying commercials or ads. Yay!

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Paul Linfesty
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posted 01-26-2009 02:09 AM

A friend of mine and I saw it tonight at 6pm at the Universal City IMAX Theatre. While I absoultely HATE AMC's redesign of this complex (seemingly nothing was done to the IMAX theatre), the presentation was excellent. The print seemed flawless and was very bright from the back row. Four previews preceeded it: Star Trek, Harry Potter (teaser only), Watchmen and Monsters Vs. Aliens.

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Monte L Fullmer
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posted 01-27-2009 03:38 AM

Oh well, not a return hit for our theatre - losing the print on Thursday .. one of those things that had its heyday when it was there..

...but, time to move on to new stuff on the screen..

-Monte

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