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Author Topic: Jonas Brothers 3D Ticket Prices Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-28-2009 10:39 PM                     Word on the street was that the Friday gross was just over $3K/screen. Not too good for a $15/ticket opening. I think 2009 is the year the 3D bubble bursts in terms of thinking one is going to actually make more money off of 3D and it turns back into what it is... a fad.  |  IP: Logged Kurt Zupin Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 989 From: Maricopa, Arizona Registered: Oct 2004 posted 03-01-2009 12:41 AM                     We have the lowest ticket price of any where I know of at $11.50 for an Adult evening ticket and its not doing great here either. Although we usually cater more to the college crowd then the tween crowd. Watchmen will be HUGE!!!!  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-01-2009 01:24 AM                     It's all about the movie. Not everyone is into the Jonas Brothers, much less has any need to see the group perform in 3D. However, 3D can be pretty damned cool in certain movie-going circumstances. I thought U23D was fantastic. I'm looking forward to 3D screenings of Monsters vs. Aliens and Up. I don't know if 9 (from Shane Acker and Tim Burton) will be shown in 3D, but it certainly looks like a very interesting CGI-based movie.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-01-2009 02:10 AM                        Someone I know who is running this in digital 3D says it gets at least 8 people per show. 8 people! Did I mention that this was in digital? And in 3D? Remember, 3D is the godsend of the exhibition industry! It will save us from the evil home theater as 3D offers SOOOOO much more to the moviegoer! In my experience, 3D works better in a still photograph than it does in a moving image. 3D in movies is almost kind of wasteful.  |  IP: Logged Edwin Schwing Expert Film Handler Posts: 116 From: Las Vegas NV Registered: May 2002 posted 03-01-2009 05:54 AM                     I feel that GREED is a major factor in this particular "movie". If the ticket prices were the same as other 3D movies, I believe the grosses would have been higher. At 19 cents a minute (if you divide the price of the ticket with the running time) it is a bit on the "uber expensive" side! Now, take you and your 4 kids to this "movie" and you are talking about a buck twenty a minute! WOW! Madea may have gotten a free get out of jail card this weekend!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-01-2009 10:40 AM                        How long is this show? 35 minutes?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-01-2009 11:31 AM                     The bottom line is the movie, always. Is it good and people want to see. At that point, theatres/studios put up the hurtles (many of them are necessary if one is to have a profitable business)...things like $15/ticket can reduce an audience the same way $1 tickets can increase an audience. Bobby, you liked the U23D movie...gross wise...was it a winner? How did it compare to Rattle and Hum in ticket sales? How about profitabiliy adjusted for inflation? I'm not in any way saying you shouldn't like the movie or 3D...just noting that from a business, 3D is not a "golden ticket" though they may be priced like they are. What I am saying is that when exhibitors start looking at their Return on Investment...3D is likey to return to hard times. The more 3D theaters that are installed, the lower the profit for each of them. Total ticket sales do not go up because a film is released in 3D...they are just shifted to the 3D theatres. Just like other costly formats...if 3D doesn't generate the studios more money, on average, than 2D titles to cover the cost of the process...it will again be history...for another 20 years. One thing is for sure now...3D has never been more expensive. Steve  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-01-2009 01:52 PM                        quote: Steve Guttag the U23D movie...gross wise...was it a winner? How did it compare to Rattle and Hum in ticket sales? Total grosses, according to Rentrak: U2 Rattle and Hum: $8,710,975 U23D: $9,705,150 So considering inflation, the 3D movie did somewhat worse than the older film. Also, U2 is arguably more popular now than they were in the Rattle And Hum days, so if anything, they should've sold more tickets to 3D - but obviously didn't. Disney is clearly riding the Miley Cyrus business model on this Jonas Bros. film. It makes sense that they would, since the Jonas' last CD hit #1 on the charts and has sold several million copies. But, the Jonas's are nowhere near Miley in terms of popularity. Given that, and the state of the economy, the time might not be right for this film. I don't think people are seeing it because it's in 3D...they're seeing it because it's the Jonas Bros. If the film was in 2D it would have sold the same number of tickets.  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 03-01-2009 03:01 PM                    To make my point, I have to make first a difference between "films made for 3D" and "films not made for 3D". The first would be gimmicky films like say Journey to the Center that are heavily made and promoted in and for 3D. Other ones maybe Valentine and Pirahna, i.e. Those are films that, undobutly, would draw more crowd in 3D than if the exact same film was 2D only to begin with. But not an awful lot. Perhaps 20% more if the film is decent. I do believe that, for the time being, many movies "not specifically made for 3D" but shot and shown in 3D nonetheless (like i.e. Coraline) will draw more audience than a 2D counterpart. But not a lot either. Perhaps only 10% more audience than if the same film opened 2D only. Now 3D films do cost 10% more (or over) to produce and exhibit, so not all this modest increase in attendance actually means an increase in profits. In the future, when just about all theaters are 3D and just about all movies are 3D (if ever), the attendance numbers would probably be about the same, perhaps a bit higher than in the 2D era but also the cost will be a bit higher, so the advantage cancels out pretty much. In the short run, some houses would benefit from the "curious espectator" (Claude, are you there? ) who goes to the 3D movies out of the novelty of the 3D itself, favouring early adopter theaters over the ones that remain 2D-only for longer. After 200 3D films are released (if ever), then this espectator is gonna go back to staying home watching American Idol. It's my belief that 3D can bring a slight increase in business, but this only translates into a slight increase in profits if a lot of people keep their hands off the jar. Certainly that "two-three times the profits of 2D" is but KoolAid, which doesn't mean that under specific circunstances it could happen (i.e. "best movie ever" is released with awesome must-see 3D and you are the only theater in NY capable of showing it 3D ).  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-01-2009 03:20 PM                  Theee ONLY way I'd pay that much for a ticket is if Joe Jonas did a one-man strip show naked...I even settle for it in 2D. HA!  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-01-2009 03:43 PM                        So, am I the only one who has never heard of this band until this concert "film" was released? I'm still pretty sure that I've not heard any of their songs. Apparently, I am getting old (at 32!) and am not listening to the teenybopper radio stations enough. Do kids even listen to the radio now, or do they all just carry ipods?  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-01-2009 03:49 PM                        Julio, As much as I love 3-D, I made no effort to see COLROLINE and have no intention of seeing the new Jonas Brothers concert 3-D movie even if it is the first in the format to be presented in IMAX here in Hawaii at the Dole Cannery 18. Although I am luke warm to animated 3-D films, I am planning to see MONSTERS VS ALIENS in IMAX 3-D but plan to stay away from the rest of the animated films in the format except for the new ICE AGE and the next Pixar offering. The film I am really looking forward to seeing later this year is James Cameron's AVATAR and from what I had read about his passion for 3-D perfection, the movie should be awesome especially in IMAX with a dual projection system. Although they are much better than the 'Over/Under' 3-D films of the seventies , Real D and Dolby 3-D cannot even come close to IMAX 3-D and other dual projection system now in use and the Natural Vision system during the early fifties. -Claude  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-01-2009 05:00 PM                     Weekend estimates have it as taking $12.7 million. Yikes! Tyler Perry did 16.5 in week 2. I saw the trailer for Jonas Bros...'nuff said.  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 03-01-2009 05:11 PM                    quote: Scott Norwood So, am I the only one who has never heard of this band until this concert "film" was released? I still don't know who they are I was also surprised to see a 3D "film" (or rather, digital video) of them, since it didn't even ring a bell before this. A lot of this Disney factory things are only big in places where Disney channel is big. Over here, we just got Disney channel in over the air digital like less than a year ago. Otherwise, it was only available on Satellite, I think.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-01-2009 05:27 PM                        I have never heard of them too, Julio. I have also never heard of Hanna Montana before her 3-D concert film was released last year. I guess the kids who go to these movies most likely never heard of Placido Domingo, Zubin Mehta or Maria Callas so I guess we are even -Claude  |  IP: Logged

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