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Aaron Mehocic
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From: New Castle, PA, USA
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 - posted 09-12-2009 07:01 PM      Profile for Aaron Mehocic   Email Aaron Mehocic   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Edwin Schwing
Aaron, don't you already card for Credit card sales? If not you should! I can't see where that would add (or take away) from sales.
Edwin, I don't understand the premise of your question. I was simply stating a theater in our chain, many years ago, in a college town, and in a different state was carding customers who wanted to buy liquor. It slowed up the lines so people who just wanted popcorn and/or a soft drink got disgusted and walked away.

Now, as to your point about carding credit card sales . . . again I'm not quite sure what you mean. At the particular theater I'm based out of all sales are cash only in both the box and the stand. We do not have card scanners anywhere in our building.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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Almost all our alcohol range is in plastic bottles so it's OK, but yes anything sold in glass would be poured in a cup.

To respond to Aaron, if someone doesn't have a signature on their credit/debit card (which seems to be the norm with American cards I come across over here) the procedure is usually that you get them to produce a matching drivers license, passport or ID card before you accept payment. I think the idea is that it places responsibility for paying for any fraud away from the merchant and on to the card issuer. In the UK paying by card is a lot more common than most countries, we have pin readers instead of signatures so ID is irrelevant unless it's a US card!

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Aaron Mehocic
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Hmmm . . . thats interesting. None of my credit cards are signed either and nobody anywhere has ever asked to see another form of ID when ringing my purchases.

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Anslem Rayburn
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 - posted 09-21-2009 06:52 AM      Profile for Anslem Rayburn   Email Anslem Rayburn   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Technically, you're not supposed to accept an unsigned card. Says so right on the back "NOT VALID UNLESS SIGNED"

I write "SEE ID" on the signature line, and still nobody asks for ID. It's no wonder credit card theft and fraud is so common.

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Chris Slycord
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This reminds me that once a guy gave me his card w/o signature so I asked for ID; he told me he left the sig off specifically to make me have to check ID. I then said "What if someone stole your card and added a signature of his own on there? When I check the back of the card, the signature will match the one he signs the receipt with."

And the guy could only think of saying "But there's no signature so you have to check ID." [Roll Eyes]

I tried explaining again but gave up when it was obvious he was not thinking whatsoever.

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Sam Graham
AKA: "The Evil Sam Graham". Wackiness ensues.

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You all might find this interesting...

Rules for VISA Merchants

Page 29 discusses unsigned cards, including specifically the "See ID" theory. Bottom line: If they refuse to sign it, don't accept it.

Also noted on the same page, VISA prefers you don't check ID in the first place, though they don't forbid it (though they DO forbid you refusing a sale based on ID).

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Mike Blakesley
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I don't understand why they would discourage you from checking ID. What does it hurt?

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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 - posted 09-22-2009 01:30 PM      Profile for Mitchell Dvoskin   Email Mitchell Dvoskin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A few years ago, my credit union sent out a notice requesting members not allow merchants to copy id information and to refuse to provide a telephone number. It went on to say that the merchant is not issuing you credit, they are. They felt that the then common practice of writing drivers license numbers and telephone numbers on the credit slip was a greater risk to identity theft than the occasional person using a stolen credit card.

While credit card taking is now mostly electronic, banks still feel that having personal id information in unsecured databases is more risky than not. I'm not sure that is still true, but considering the number of security breaches at retailers over the last few years, they may very well be correct.

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