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John Wilson
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quote: Mike Blakesley
I would play "Monkey Beer Farts Part 12" if it would put a lot of butts in the seats.
I think it's all internet hype. 'Monkey Beer Farts Part 11' grossed less than half of 'Part 10'.

I think it's over.

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Mark J. Marshall
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quote: Mike Blakesley
who wants to see the Eiffel Tower collapse again? Or see New York get laid to waste...again?
Lots of folks. A lot more than would want to see a bunch of silly blue elfs teach us about why we should all love the trees ... again. (If that ends up being the case.)

quote: Greg Anderson
Why? Because the Mayans didn't bother to update their calendar before their ancient civilization officially disbanded?
They "disbanded"? Is that what happened to them? Wow! Thanks for clearing THAT up! [Smile]

Why people believe what they believe is irrelevant. My point is that people believe it.

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Greg Anderson
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Yes, they disbanded (officially), they sold their web site to another ancient civilization and they specifically mentioned something about the Eiffel Tower coming down in 2012. They also predicted the end of James Cameron's box office success after mid-1998. All of these are excellent reasons to believe that the movie 2012 is somehow based on facts.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Joe Redifer
Which one will you all buy on Blu-ray?
Both movies must work fairly hard to earn a place in my collection of movie discs. I won't buy a copy of either movie if they both suck or aren't good enough to be worthy of repeat viewings. There's lots of good movies that are only good enough to see just once, either in the theater or via rental.

I think Avatar has more going for it in terms of pre-release guessing. That situation may change and even change radically once both movies are released.

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Mike Blakesley
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I can pretty much guarantee I won't buy either one on Blu-Ray. On DVD either, for that matter. I have yet to buy anything from either one of those directors, although I've been tempted to get TITANIC since we got the big TV at home.

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Scott Jentsch
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A movie has to be pretty good to be worth buying on Blu-ray (or DVD, but who buys or watches those anymore?), or it has to be a decent movie at a really good price.

From what I've seen of both 2012 and Avatar, I don't think either will reach the status of "decent" in my book. Who knows, though? The first Avatar trailer really stunk, and the second is better. Maybe by the time they release the movie, it will be even better than its trailers!

With Netflix making it so incredibly easy and inexpensive to rent movie, buying them is a rarity for me. When I can get something delivered from them in the same timeframe it would take to get something delivered if I ordered from Amazon, the movie has to have lots of replay potential (including the desire to impulse-watch without wanting to wait for the turnaround from Netflix) to make it worth buying.

Most movies these days just don't reach that level of desirability for me. I'm fine with watching them once, and most likely never again. I'm expecting that to be the case with both 2012 and Avatar.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Something tells me that we should start bashing both of them right here and now.... or we can just add these two in over at the Transformers 3 bashing thread...

Mark

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Sam Graham
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2012 is a Roland Emmerich film, so I am automatically not going.

Avatar is a James Cameron film, so I am automatically going.

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Richard P. May
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I have seen a running time for "2012" as 157 min.
AVATAR is probably in the same range. The creatures look like animation.
That's a lot of destruction.

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John Wilson
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quote: Sam Graham
2012 is a Roland Emmerich film, so I am automatically not going.

Avatar is a James Cameron film, so I am automatically going.

I like your way of thinking. [thumbsup]

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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A competitor of ours has opened advance booking on Avatar, and their programming suggests a 160-minute run time.

I'm more excited about 2012 purely because the marketing has been so good. The best way to get people in the cinema is by showing an aircraft carrier smashing in to the White House on a tidal wave! The poster with the monk looking at the Himalayas being consumed by waves is also great.

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Mark J. Marshall
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quote: Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
The poster with the monk looking at the Himalayas being consumed by waves is also great.
I thought that trailer was great.

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Jonathan Althaus
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I've seen conflicting reports on the Avatar runtime. Some sites say 166, some say 189. More sites seem to indicate 166.

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Scott Jentsch
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We've got it clocking in at 166 minutes, but West World Media (CinemaSource) has it at 160. I wouldn't put it past Cameron to push it up to 3 hours, but I'm hoping that he exercised some restraint for the theatrical release.

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Jonathan Althaus
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Isn't Cameron known for putting out just one version, that his "directors cut" is whats in theatres? I hope 165ish is the max, because with trailers 3+ hrs is pushing it, especially for 3D. (Cue Avatar IMAX film length/platter size)

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