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Martin McCaffery
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 - posted 11-12-2009 09:32 PM      Profile for Martin McCaffery   Author's Homepage   Email Martin McCaffery   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Frank, it sounds like you're talking UNION there, and we know how NATO feels about unions [evil]

I recently got a new Master Contract from a distributor whose name sounds like Bony. One of the clauses in the contract is we are not allowed to reveal the existence of said contract.

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Frank Angel
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Martin, no I wasn't thinking union, just business with like interests setting guidlines. And I don't see how it would be any different than the MPAA members getting together and authoring parameters underwhich they rent their pictures. It's no coincidence that Master Contracts have the very similar conditions and that is not collusion.

Steve, if the NATO members agreed on a guideling which said they will not play any engagement where the slip was higher than say 50/50, it would not be an anti-trust issue or a restraint of trade if it is applied to ALL the studios equally. It would only become illegal if it applied that to Disney (heh heh the rodents head would explode) but played Sony titles with a rate more favorable to that studio. But you are right -- if a few greedy members break the guideline, then it falls apart.

I wonder if any big exhibitor ever refused to play a title because it just didn't agree to the terms, or do they all pretty much accept whatever any studio wants just to get the picture. I heard the exhibs refused to play THE PIRATES OF PENZANCE because Universal, I believe it was, said they were going to release it simultaniously to cable PPV. I can't think of any other time that I've heard of where exhibition en masse refused to play a piture for unacceptable terms.

Wait, now I remember that I think it was Loews who walked out of negotiations for STAR WARS I when Lucas & Fox demanded a cut of the concessions grosses. But I only heard that in hearsay and not from any concrete source.

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Jeremy Weigel
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I seem to remember that Regal refused and didn't play "The Prince of Egypt" on the break due to failed terms negotiations.

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Jack Ondracek
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quote: Jeremy Weigel
I seem to remember that Regal refused and didn't play "The Prince of Egypt" on the break due to failed terms negotiations.
I also remember that... don't recall it being "Prince of Egypt", though.

Some time back, the company that became "Act III", then part of Regal got into a spat with Paramount. The result was that they didn't book "Crocodile Dundee" or "Star Trek TNG". As the company owned all of the first-run outlets in our area at the time, it was a short-termed bonanza for a local sub-runner.

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David Stambaugh
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Didn't Regal have some kind of spat with New Line over one of the Rush Hour movies? Also Paramount and Tomb Raider?

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Mark Ogden
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quote: Frank Angel
Wait, now I remember that I think it was Loews who walked out of negotiations for STAR WARS I when Lucas & Fox demanded a cut of the concessions grosses. But I only heard that in hearsay and not from any concrete source.
It wasn't really a cut of concession profits that they wanted, they wanted a minimum floor for The Phantom Menace that Loews wouldn't give. For years, Loews was pure split only for all its NYC houses: 90/10 and whatnot, but NO minimums. Fox demanded a unprecedented (for NYC at least) floor deal, and Loews walked out. Irony is, they had been going like hell to get the Kips Bay 15 ready for the release, they built the #11 auditorium there to have the largest screen in town (which it still has) with Star Wars in mind. Ooops!

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Eric Hooper
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The "shelf life" of movies today aren't what they used to be....

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