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Author Topic: Projection Booth Training Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 11-19-2009 02:29 PM                        Speaking of dropped prints, last night when I was moving 2012 with a platter scoop, the assistant who was helping me lost her grip and the film came apart. Luckily it was in 3 solid sections - one of which was the first ~3 reels still wound nicely on the ring. I was able to plop the other two sections on the platter, surround them with suction cups and run them through the projector to get them back on the print. Other than the initial "Holy Shit" moment, it was pretty easy to deal with.  |  IP: Logged Tom Inglis Film Handler Posts: 34 From: Croydon London, England Registered: Mar 2009 posted 11-20-2009 03:16 AM                     quote: Chris Slycord What is this referring to? You must be using that word differently than I. Yeah, sorry, it means that they get shown around the booth and given all booth relevent maps, paperwork and procedures. Shown the fire procedures etc etc.  |  IP: Logged Caleb Johnstone-Cowan Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 593 From: London, UK Registered: Mar 2006 posted 11-20-2009 08:41 AM                     For a potential employee from the floor you could ask their managers about how they are on the till. If they are always spot on, punch in items correctly and process vouchers and comps properly that attention to detail would probably transfer to the booth. The two floor staff that got moved upstairs at my work in the last year were among the best on the till and they have been good upstairs as well.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 11-20-2009 03:32 PM                     quote: Tom Inglis Yeah, sorry, it means that they get shown around the booth and given all booth relevent maps, paperwork and procedures. Shown the fire procedures etc etc. Sounds like an "introduction" rather than "induction" which is what I was confused about.  |  IP: Logged Ed Alvarado Film Handler Posts: 60 From: Fort Worth, TX,usa Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-10-2009 06:17 AM                        well good luck i just recommend that if your looking for anybody in the booth they need to keep the drama at home. i mean its not hard to work in the booth its the easiest job to do. i think you should just do these simple things in order and the rest well come naturally because if you separate that huge list for a person to work in the booth it becomes a hassle and you dont have much time to be training because of hour use so just do this instead. THREAD BUILD TEAR DOWN MAINTENANCE learning to repair a film is not hard because once you learn to thread you figure out how the platter system works so with that being done its easy to repair a brain wrap. so in just a two week training all should be taken care of with out all the stress.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Althaus Master Film Handler Posts: 435 From: Bedford, TX Registered: Dec 2008 posted 12-10-2009 02:20 PM                     Only time I've ever had a dropped print was when I was moving with another person. Since then I always move prints by myself, no matter how big they are.  |  IP: Logged John T. Hendrickson, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 889 From: Freehold, NJ, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-10-2009 03:52 PM                     Sorry, but I find this strange. I never allowed anyone to move a print by themselves. In all my time in the booth, I have never seen two people who are properly trained drop a print. I have seen an individual make a mess moving a print alone, hence, my rule.  |  IP: Logged Alex Edwards Expert Film Handler Posts: 114 From: Iowa Registered: Aug 2009 posted 12-10-2009 04:37 PM                  Same with our theater. Prints hardly ever get moved by one person and if they do, it better be tightend and less then 6 reels. I've NEVER heard of one person being better than two.  |  IP: Logged Tom Inglis Film Handler Posts: 34 From: Croydon London, England Registered: Mar 2009 posted 12-10-2009 05:44 PM                     We use reinforced wooden boards to move our films about, so it's perfectly safe to do it solo.  |  IP: Logged Ed Alvarado Film Handler Posts: 60 From: Fort Worth, TX,usa Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-14-2009 06:30 AM                        quote: Jonathan Althaus Only time I've ever had a dropped print was when I was moving with another person. Since then I always move prints by myself, no matter how big they are. how can you drop a film with two people? thats terrible man! working for a place that i worked at before i cant say no mames but i was forced to move films on my own. but its a must man you need two people to move a print some films are waaay to big and if the film drops its not worth repairing a film for 4hrs. I DONT RECOMMEND YOU MOVE FILMS ON YOUR OWN.  |  IP: Logged Tom Inglis Film Handler Posts: 34 From: Croydon London, England Registered: Mar 2009 posted 12-14-2009 06:48 AM                     I think I'm allowed to post this... This is the contents to the new Projection Training Manual that Matt and I are currently writing. It is subject to change, and any input would be welcome. Equipment varies throughout the company, so we remain fairly unspecific, and we're not covering digital. Projection Training Guide 0.1 Contents 1. Induction 1.1 Site Induction 1.2 Projection Induction 2. Site Operation 2.1 Turning on Projection 2.2 Turning on the projector 2.3 Closing down Projection 2.4 Troubleshooting 3. Shows 3.1 Practical: Lacing up 3.2 Practical: Seeing on/over 3.3 Practical: Extras 3.4 Theory: Shows 3.5 Troubleshooting 4. Ads and Trailers 4.1 Trailers: Receiving and the Trailer Sheet 4.2 Trailers: Set Make-up and changes 4.3 Adverts: Receiving and Makeup 4.4 Adverts: Breakdown 4.5 Troubleshooting 5. Film 5.1 Receiving 5.2 Breakdown and return 5.3 Makeup and rehearsal 5.4 Troubleshooting 6. Housekeeping 6.1 Jobs and responsibilities 6.2 Troubleshooting 7. Tech 6.1 Introduction to PPM 6.2 Xenon Hours 6.3 Xenon Lamp Changes 6.4 Weekly Jobs 6.4.1 Screen Checks 6.4.2 Mech Checks 6.4.3 Portholes 6.4.4 Lens Cleaning 6.4.5 Hearing Impaired System Check 6.4.6 Clean Optics/Set Dolby Levels 6.5 Monthly Jobs 6.5.1 Xenon Check 6.5.2 Film Cleaner Check 6.5.3 B-Chain Noise Sequence 6.5.4 Bypass Level Check 6.6 Bi-Monthly Jobs 6.6.1 Lens Line-up and Phasing Check 6.6.2 Clean Feed Units 6.6.3 Platter Clean 6.6.4 Deep Clean Projector 6.7 Quarterly Jobs 6.7.1 Soundrack Clean 6.7.2 Lamphouse/Rectifier Clean 6.7.3 Slide Projector Maintenance 6.7.4 Roller Clean 6.7.5 Platter Timing 6.8 Troubleshooting  |  IP: Logged Sean McKinnon Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1712 From: Peabody Massachusetts Registered: Sep 2000 posted 12-14-2009 12:35 PM                        personally I have always found it difficult to move prints with two people holding the print flat... especially if you have to climb stairs or go through doorways or tight spaces. I prefer to CLAMP the print with at least three film clamps and carry the print vertical with two hands. I have NEVER dropped a print this way. I do however have a second person help me remove, and place the print on the platter, I also have this second person hold doors for me etc... I find that when two people move a print they are less likely to use clamps and less likely to tape the tail down which causes more issues. With one person you have to use clamps and tape the tail down no exceptions. I also do not like those boards as I have seen prints slide off them when someone twisted it vertically to go through a doorway without holding the ring in the middle  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Althaus Master Film Handler Posts: 435 From: Bedford, TX Registered: Dec 2008 posted 12-14-2009 01:10 PM                     quote: Ed Alvarado how can you drop a film with two people? Going through a tight space and the guy I was moving it with tripped and dropped his end. I moved Inglourious Basterds the other day, 4 clamps, double clamped with one end on a rolling stool, the other end in my hand, no problems at all. I'll continue to move prints alone, looking forward to the 172 minute 3 Idiots film next week.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-14-2009 01:56 PM                     Jonathan, I presume you are still running the old SPECO LP270 platters over there? My problem with those and moving with one person is that it completely screws up the center ring, bending it into egg shapes and such. That slippage can cause scratches. SPECO does have a Christie-type center ring knockoff that is well worth the money to upgrade to. I'm curious, do you guys still skip the roller on the takeup elevator on the newer models like I originally showed some 15 years ago before you move a print? And do you still have no auditorium #13?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-14-2009 02:12 PM                     Or, make a board with a cutout (making the board look like a big forked device) with the cutout in the middle that is the same width as the brain area in the middle to scoop prints off of those LP-270's, AW3's with the stationary brain and with AW2's as well.. The board (use 1/4" "sand and shop",or a finished side plywood") then one can lift the print right over the brain, not tweak out any rings and you do the reverse when putting the print on a different deck. Then, one person can move prints quite easily... -Monte  |  IP: Logged

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