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Sean McKinnon
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But it was as she was leaning forward, her head tilted to the side that an upright armrest fell in to position -- bonking her so hard, she says, that she went to the hospital with a concussion.
I've seen some arm rests that when in the down position protude out the back of the chair slightly. I figured that since she was leaning foward she got hit by the back of the arm rest in front of her swinging up and hitting her in the forehead. I don't see how she could be leaning foward and get hit by an arm rest behind her? This whole thing smells like bull shit to me!

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Sean McKinnon
I don't see how she could be leaning foward and get hit by an arm rest behind her?
Leaning down and to the side puts you directly in the path of the armrest that would be moving forward. Sure, it wouldn't happen with the super-short armrests, but lots of armrests are pretty long.

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Sean McKinnon
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ok I get it now I guess I skipped over the part where it said down and to the side. Anyways this lady has to be so full of shit you can smell her a mile away!

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Chris Slycord
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Well all it says is she hunched forward, but she could've easily leaned to the side a bit and describe that as hunching forward or said she did that and had the person writing the article describe it wrong.

Still, she'll have a hard time proving her case.

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Justin Hamaker
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quote: Chris Slycord
Leaning down and to the side puts you directly in the path of the armrest that would be moving forward.
It would put your back or shoulder in the way, but I still am having a very hard time visualizing how she would get her head in position to get hit.

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Chris Slycord
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Try picturing someone a lot shorter than you doing it. And with the armrests being long.

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Jim Cassedy
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I second Connor's idea!

Around here, people seem to have gotten the message about
not chatting during the show. Almost all of our complaints
are caused by people texting. The screens on most phones
& PDA's these days are so bright it can light up half the
aisle and is very distracting to everyone sitting behind
the texting twit. (Or tweeting text-er, or whatever.)

While testing our new Techniclor 3D system the other day,
I discovered that while wearing the Tech-3D glasses, I
could not read the display on my cell phone. Apparantly
the polarizaion of the glasses and the filter on the LCD
screen of my phone did not match. I don't know if this
will happen with all cell phones, but if so, it sure
would be one way to cut down on texting during the show!

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Jim Bedford
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Cell phones: ID, block, or destroy them

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Chris Slycord
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If you click on the first link the picture and description clearly say it is a camera detector despite them titling the object as a cell phone detector.

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Lyle Romer
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Unless there was a 10 lb weight in the cupholder there is no way that a falling armrest can generate enough force in that much space. The max the armrest could move before hitting her is maybe 3 feet.

The only way to cause a concussion with an armrest is if somebody removed it and wound up and hit her with it really hard. This story is complete BS. The fact that a lawyer even took the case shows what is wrong with that profession.

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Mike Blakesley
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Agreed. This is like somebody jumping up and hitting their head on a low ceiling, and then suing because the ceiling was too low.

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Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
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Mike, I did just that the other week in my own house, but instead of the ceiling, I hit my head on a light fixture and broke it. Oops.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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> I hit my head on a light fixture and broke it.

Your head or the fixture? [Smile]

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Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
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The fixture. I have been told that I am hard headed, I guess this is just empirical proof. It did hurt like hell, though.

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Bobby Henderson
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Not to diminish you hurting your head, but that's really not any sort of empirical proof at all.

More weight and force can be associated with a human body in motion than an armrest on a theater chair pivoting down from an upright position. A person can hurt himself pretty badly by hitting his head on a stationary object.

Another problem I have with this arm rest story is I've never encountered theater seats with movable arm rests where the arm rests moved very loose and free. They almost always seem to have quite a bit of resistance or "stick" to the pivot action. With most seats, I could raise the arm rest partially and have it stay put at a 45° angle. Obviously this is another detail to check with the lady's very questionable story.

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