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Author Topic: Old Posters? Cameron Andrews Film Handler Posts: 29 From: Rexburg, ID 83440 Registered: Apr 2009 posted 04-09-2010 07:56 AM                     This is starting to look like the "what can you do with film-guard" Thread.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 04-10-2010 08:10 PM                     Of course we save all of our old one-sheets. Large flat map drawers. Because if we ever want to show the film again in the future... --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Michael Riley Film Handler Posts: 52 From: New Jersey Registered: Apr 2010 posted 04-10-2010 11:41 PM                  Posters are funny in that sometimes the film companies are incredibly stingy and only give you one or two and refuse to provide you with any more (The Twilight films come to mind) while other times you will get sent more posters for a certain film than you would ever use in a million years, Clash of the Titans and The Wolfman are recent examples of this. As far as I ever knew, it was in the contract with the film studios that one sheets, standees and other promo crap is technically still their property, and it's based on the honor system that you will destroy them after use. I was always told that if you were ever to be caught giving stuff to customers, or worse, trying to sell it, that the studios would raise hell and might start denying you film product. Not that I've ever actually heard of this happening, but still. A quick search on eBay however shows that people are already selling the final one sheet for Iron Man 2 which was just sent out this week, so obviously someone somewhere is getting this stuff and selling it, but not for nearly enough to make it worth losing your job or your livelyhood over.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 04-10-2010 11:49 PM                     If you can find contractual language mandating destruction of marketing materials, I would like to see it. I'm not aware of any. Incidently, Mike Blakesly, reviewing MLAs, I see this text: "Exhibitor shall not alter of modify Distributor's advertising materials for any Title unless authorized by Distributor or its authorized advertising agency in writing, and shall use advertising as authorized during Exhibitor's approved advertising window only." I guess this might have implications for the whole 3D thing... [I know, a different thread]. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 04-11-2010 06:14 AM                    Do studios really care about that (trading and selling posters)? I mean come on, it's still working to advertise and generate buzz about their movie - and they don't really have to do a thing except print the posters and let it happen. So I have an Iron Man 2 poster hanging in my house or my office or whatever... so what? I end up feeling cool for having it and it makes people in my office or my house start talking about the movie. Unless the studios are actively LOSING a crap ton of money by printing the posters I just don't see why they would have a problem with it.  |  IP: Logged Alan Plester Expert Film Handler Posts: 209 From: great yarmouth england Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-11-2010 07:57 AM                     I did a whole double bedroom with them,trouble was, I couldn`t bear to throw them out, even when they began to fade with time, fabulous talking point tho, when entertaining, if you know what I mean..  |  IP: Logged Manny Montes Master Film Handler Posts: 270 From: United States Registered: Feb 2010 posted 04-11-2010 10:12 AM                     I've got a lot in my bedroom, makes it look interesting, plus free decoration that disguises the crappy wall that needs to be painted  |  IP: Logged Richard C. Wolfe Master Film Handler Posts: 250 From: Northampton, PA, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 04-11-2010 03:09 PM                        quote: John Hawkinson If you can find contractual language mandating destruction of marketing materials, I would like to see it. I'm not aware of any. As I look at my master contract from Sony I see the following: "Exhibitor is not authorized to sell, offer for sale, or give away any advertising material, including, but not limited to, standees, posters and trailers. Exhibitor shall not sell or permit any sale or distribution of materials or merchandise pertaining to or in connection with the Film, or the Actors, companies or products associated with the Film, unless approved in writing by SPR. Exhibitor shall indemnify and hold SPR harmless from any claim against SPR that results from Exhibitors breach of this provision". While this doesn't say anything about having to destroy the material, it doesn't say what we are supposed to do with it as well. Since we can't sell it or give it away, I assume we must throw it away (destroy), or keep it forever, which is what I do. I have about 5,000 posters, going back to 1970, in tubes and boxes in the basement of the theatre.  |  IP: Logged James. R. Deeter Film Handler Posts: 64 From: Belton, MO, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-12-2010 03:00 PM                     ....and the exact address of your theatre is ???  |  IP: Logged Robert E. Allen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1078 From: Checotah, Oklahoma Registered: Jul 2002 posted 04-12-2010 05:01 PM                     Richard: The distributors are just to busy to (or just don't give a damn about) enforce that paragraph. In all my years in the business (starting back in the carbon arc days) I've never heard from any distributor as to what to do with old surplus advertising material.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 04-12-2010 05:22 PM                     quote: James. R. Deeter ....and the exact address of your theatre is ??? Lol!  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 04-12-2010 05:44 PM                     quote: Robert E. Allen In all my years in the business (starting back in the carbon arc days) I've never heard from any distributor as to what to do with old surplus advertising material. Robert you must of forgot about NSS (National Screen Service) there where contracted by the studios to handle advertising materials. They handled the enforcement, not the studios during that time. The theatres licensed the material by paying a fee. They started handling poster from about 1940. NSS was formed in 1920 and handled trailers. They ran till sometime in the late 1980's.. At the bottom of their materials. Property of National Screen Service Corporation. Licensed for use only in connection with the exhibition of this picture at the theatre licensing this material. Licensee agrees not to trade, sell or give it away, or permit others to use it nor shall licensee be entitled to any credit upon return of this material. This material either must be returned or destroyed immediately after use.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Jorgenson Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1002 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Feb 2005 posted 04-14-2010 03:21 PM                        quote: Robert E. Allen I've never heard from any distributor as to what to do with old surplus advertising material. I remember being required to send back Episode I materials back in 1999. I don't know how strictly that was enforced by Fox, but I believe it was the only time we had to do it for that company/location that I was working at at the time.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-14-2010 04:11 PM                        In the NSS days we had to send back trailers or get billed for them. The bands were individually numbered and they would charge you if you sent back the trailer without the band. These days, as pointed out above, nobody cares enough to enforce the no-sale/no giveaway rule -- they just do that language to protect themselves from lawsuits by the poster-selling shop owners, who get mad when their customers say "I got one free from the ????? Theatre."  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 04-14-2010 09:12 PM                     NSS was still in business well in to the 1990s. The first time I was at the Beverly Center, as an assistant manager (1991-1993), I would often drive down to NSS (turn right on La Cienega and drive two and a half miles, to their offices just before the 10 freeway) to pick up trailers and posters. Last time I was there was to pick up 70mm trailers for one of our very few 70mm presentations.  |  IP: Logged

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