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Brad Miller
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 - posted 11-24-2010 01:56 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Pravin Ratnam
Most movies are not worth my undivided attention.
Do what everyone else does when there is a crappy movie playing, pull out your cell phone and start texting! [Razz]

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Jonathan Smith
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 - posted 11-24-2010 03:24 PM      Profile for Jonathan Smith   Email Jonathan Smith   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Joe Redifer
James Cameron, the Ted Turner of our times.
Well Joe, if you did a little research, you would know that a lot of that had to do with extending copyright on classic films, so it was actually a pretty clever move.

I've been afraid several times trying to buy classic B&W movies on VHS/DVD (moreso with former) and seeing a colorized box! Fortunately, most of the time it is false advertising and the movie is unscathed.

So if you have a bunch of idiots that will actually buy a B&W movie with a color box, but not a B&W movie with a B&W box, which approach is foolish?

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I have seen parts of Avatar on 3D in the home. It looks outstanding!
While I agree with you that classic movie history shouldn't be "rewritten" in 3D, you seem to be very pro digital and pro 3D. Do you not care about the fact that 3D movies throw out half of the SPATIAL resolution for mostly redundant stereo pairs?

I've even seen you say that Tech 3D sucks. Care to give a reason why your home set is better than a 35mm print other than the new car smell and the wow factor?

Not trying to pick a fight, just would like to see you back what you say up with reasons WHY you like 3D TV and RealD, and that they are better than alternatives.

I've not seen 3D television, but almost everything I have heard about it is unimpressive. Small screens and the need to exaggerate the stereo effect had something to do with it. . .

Overall, I think 3D conversions and colorization of movies are just fine. . . for home viewing because you can simply turn them off. You can desaturate a color movie and watch a 3D movie in 2D.

So there aren't to the same level of lobotomy as scrapping all the original effects and matte paintings in a classic film and telling the craftsmen and artists who labored for years on them to "FUCK OFF."

Lucas at least left some of the good stuff in (I like how he didn't' touch any of the space battle footage in ROTJ because they did work as good with 100 pieces of composited 35mm film as they can do today with an acre of supercomputers). But whoever "improved" the original "Star Trek" totally butchered all the fine effects by the Howard Anderson company and Vandervere Optical, even the beautiful matte paintings in "The Menagerie."

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Joe Redifer
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3DTV is fairly unimpressive so far. Too much flicky flick. 120Hz is too slow.

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Jonathan Smith
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That second quote isn't Joe I'm responding to, it's what Tom said.

Joe: Do you really think 3DTV is going to catch on? I think 3D is rapidly going for another quarter-century hibernation period. . .

It'll probably hold on with cartoons, since the 3D installations really aren't going anywhere.

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Mike Blakesley
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I think the movie theaters should just stop charging the 3D surcharge, and maybe just raise prices in general by 50 cents a ticket, and put up signs saying that 50 cents of every ticket sold goes to a "projection equipment upgrade fund."

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