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Bill Enos
Film God

Posts: 2081
From: Richmond, Virginia, USA
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 06-20-2011 07:02 PM

I'd much rather see a Blu-Ray than one of the shitball prints studios send out calling them archival or some other meaningless
term. Haven't seen end to end scratches, platter hash, gorgeous pink on a BD yet, and the sound is always better than anything an analog print can muster. How about a little honesty from studios about the condition of what they send.

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Frank Angel
Film God

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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 06-20-2011 10:06 PM

Well, I don't know where you are getting your archive prints from Bill, but you can't make that broad, general accusation without stretching the truth a bit in your statement. Art houses are running classic titles all the time and not all of them are the grindhouse prints you are describing.

I can pull a dozen projection reports of prints we've run where a good 80% are between B- and AA condition. I just ran a spanking new print of 2001 with not a scratch on it, and will run a A condition print of WEST SIDE STORY in July.

I can guarantee that the prints the AFI and The American Cinemateque run at the Egyptian and Aero in LA or the Film Forum in NY or the Loews Jersey in NJ are not pink or scratched or have dirt on them or any of the other issues you are claiming plague all classic prints. And yes, although you may find lousy prints on occassion, they usually come from third party non-theatrical distributors and I dare say are often obtained by venues which want to take the easy road just book thru a non-theatrical distributor and not taking the time or making the effort to go after the harder to obtain archive prints. We have on occasion gotten permission after LONG negotiations to run AA condition collector IBTech prints when we could find them. Others do the same.

Would I run a BluRay in the venues that have adaquate video projection if there were no decent print to run? ONLY if I really needed it in a theme or director's series. BUT, I would always explain to an audience that film was not being used but video was.

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Mike Blakesley
Film God

Posts: 12767
From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99

posted 06-21-2011 12:24 AM

I agree with Elizabeth and Joe's definition of "guest," but the dictionary says otherwise:

quote:
guest
/gɛst/
1. a person who spends some time at another person's home in some social activity, as a visit, dinner, or party.

2. a person who receives the hospitality of a club, a city, or the like.

3. a person who patronizes a hotel, restaurant, etc., for the lodging, food, or entertainment it provides.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 06-21-2011 01:54 AM

I think the dictionary definition was written as a reflection of how it is actually used, not the other way around. It's kind of like adding LOL to the dictionary... which they did. Just like we cringe when people say "I filmed it with my video camera". The dictionary says that terminology is absolutely correct.

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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

Posts: 4247
From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 06-21-2011 12:36 PM

While I am in favor of projecting via DCP or even HDCam, I will agree that even a beat-up film print offers a certain level of reliability that Bluray does not offer.

If I've inspected it and I feel it will run okay. Given where we stand today, I *would* feel more confident with a print versus a Bluray.

In the few cases where I have had both versions but opted to run the Bluray, I still play the film print in parallel as a security measure. (Choosing the Bluray, in these cases, means that the quality of the film print was significantly compromised.)

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Randy Stankey
Film God

Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 06-21-2011 03:00 PM

quote: Frank Angel
Scott, I can guarantee that the equipment the networks and use and the little toy dishes the provider brought in are two different animals.

quote: Frank Angel
I watched him "align" the dish. He aimed it at the proper quadrant in the sky -- ok, I guess he had to know that detail -- but then, while watching a little 12in TV set, looked at the feed (not even color bars) and just kept turning the dish by hand until he got the strongest signal, then locked it down; not even a signal strength meter in his other hand. I kept hearing Peggy Lee in my head --"Is that all there is?"

That is one thing that makes me happy about our satellite setup. We have two 1.2 m. dishes on the roof and two receivers. The dishes are good quality and, when the guy pointed them, he used a signal analyzer. Not just a "bird dog" signal meter. A full fledged analyzer.

I hauled the equipment up to the roof, assembled it and located it. All he had to do was run the cables and do the final pointing then lock it down.

Even so, I still thought to myself, "Is that all?"

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Kurt Zupin
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 989
From: Maricopa, Arizona
Registered: Oct 2004

posted 06-21-2011 04:23 PM

quote: Elizabeth Betty Gross
Kurt: Guests are invited, customers pay.

Thank you, I'm glad I know this now [Wink]

lol If you notice I put customer through out my post, that was the only place I put guest. My theoretical "Guests" were always paying Customers.

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 06-21-2011 10:30 PM

A "guest" who "pays" must be a "Patron!"

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Jonathan Goeldner
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1360
From: Washington, District of Columbia
Registered: Jun 2008

posted 06-22-2011 01:46 PM

the Bow Tie Reston Cinemas last night presentation went on without a hitch [thumbsup]

- the image was brighter but the sound didn't sound as good as at the AFI Silver. Looks like last weekend did bofo business, more screenings are being added for this weekend.

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