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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Steven Stroud
My question... what kind of bug guy do you have that can't ID fruitflies?
Well that's what's strange...after he got a look at them he told me they are NOT fruit flies. But I don't know what else they could be.

I'll see if I can catch one in a cup or something and get a photo of it.

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Martin McCaffery
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Have you checked any floor drains, especially one connected to the drink machine?

If the flies are residing there and living off of the sugar fueled lifeforms that can grow in the pipes, a treatment or two of cesspool cleaner (the kind with bacteria that eats the organic matter) may be the cure.

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Dominic Espinosa
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quote: Joe Redifer
Have you checked the restroom for dead people?
Go, Joe with the topical humor...

Agree with the aforementioned.
We take it one step further, once a week we take a tiny bottle brush with hot water to the fountain heads.
The nozzles get a daily hot water bath and sanitizer and the hardware is all washed in the sink same as dishes or wiped down if it doesn't come off.

Additionally, you should take your BIB connectors (if equipped as such) and soak them in hot water once a week or so for a bit to get the crud off of them. The fruit flies LOVE those things.

Definitely also agree with douching out the trashcans regularly and cleaning the drains.
I'm partial to simple green for the former and plain old hot water and soda tower cleaner for the latter.

Good luck!

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Mike Blakesley
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I'm working on a combination of various suggestions from above, so I'll report back what happens. I've already implemented daily soaking of the soda spigots and I noticed that the crew has been lax in catching the under-side of the valves, so that's being addressed too.

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Louis Bornwasser
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What they need is a "solid nozzle" that you could fill with solution and install in place of the nozzle. This would let the "underside" soak. Louis

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Randy Stankey
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
Algae growth will harden up in the lines to be like a black, rubbery substance that will plug up both ice bin drain lines and soda drain lines. I've had to clean out both using compressed air since the goo can easily be discharged under pressure.
You should see the sludge that grows inside the drains from the beer tap in a bar! Yeast and bacteria from the beer grows on the inside of the pipes until it evenly coats them but, once the growth gets heavy enough, gravity pulls it away from the surface of the plastic pipe and it sloughs downward to make room for more growth. After a while, a whitish, snakelike skein of yeasty bacteria grows inside the pipe. It's friggin' scary!

The only thing that kills it is boiling water and pure lye. Bleach won't touch it. (The biofilm resists bleach.)

Pour a good, healthy cupfull of lye crystals down the drains, followed by a pitcher full of hot water from the coffee pot. Let it sit overnight and follow with another pot of hot water in the morning. Rinse with hot tap water until the drain runs clear. Follow with a drain snake if necessary. (Be sure to wash out all the lye lest you get chemical burns!)

Point I'm making, here, is that you might have some kind of biofilm coating on the insides of your drain lines that resists bleach and cleaners. Pure lye and/or mechanical cleaning might be the only way to remove them.

While you're at it, do the floor drains, the sink drains and any condensate drains from coolers or refrigerators, too.

Also, do you have any floor drains in areas that don't get used very often?

At Mercyhurst, we occasionally have problems with the drains in the downstairs dressing rooms drying up. During the summer, the dressing rooms don't get used very much and the water evaporates from the traps in the shower stalls and floor drains. When that happens, sewer gas and, sometimes, flies come up the drain.

Housekeeping and maintenance don't clean the dressing rooms during the summer because nobody uses them. The dressing room doors are all locked and nobody even goes in there. Why bother cleaning them? Right?

Well, the correct answer is that, even if they aren't used, somebody needs to go in there every couple-few weeks to check on things and run hot water down the sinks and showers, flush the toilets and pour a bucket of water down the floor drains.

So... Do you have a sink, a drain or a soda tower in a corner or a back area somewhere that doesn't get used very often? Since nobody ever uses it, you might think it doesn't need any attention from the cleaners but I think it pays to give them a look-see every so often just to make sure.

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Eric Robinson
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quote: Joe Redifer
Have you checked the restroom for dead people?
Joe - you are the master of comedy [thumbsup]

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Robert Crabtree
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Since I'm paranoid about the use of hazardous chemicals, I've come to use essential oils for a few tasks, including insect repellant.

Most essential oils are good at deterring a few specific insects. Some, like peppermint, lavender, and eucalyptus make a good broad-spectrum deterrent. You could try them out individually to see if they help drive them from your building.

I mix those three in equal parts in large batches, and as needed, place 3-6 drops in a mug of hot water. Pleasant, slightly medicinal smell to it. You can pick the oils up at GNC and most health food/whole food stores. Even if they don't work on the flies, these oils (particularly lavender) can be used with cleaning products or as a lobby fragrance.

More effective, but less adaptable as a "lobby fragrance", would be a mixture of 2 parts lemongrass with 1 part each peppermint, thyme, and lavender. Reasonably innocuous/pleasant odor, but thyme oil is comparatively scarce relative to the other oils.

Or do what my colleague from the Buckeye state does: she weekly wipes down every surface in her home with pure ammonia. Hasn't seen a roach or most other insects at home in over 18 months, and that's quite an accomplishment in Florida.

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Mark J. Marshall
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We called them "mynocks".

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Robert Crabtree
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While your bug guy ruled out fruit flies, this article about the effective use of citrus oils against fruit flies might be of use; and yet again, even if it doesn't work, you have a pleasant lobby/home fragrance on hand.

Fruit Flies Hate Citrus Oils

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