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Author Topic: AMC Presentation "Quality" William Kucharski Expert Film Handler Posts: 244 From: Louisville, Colorado, United States of America Registered: Oct 2012 posted 12-02-2013 10:55 PM                     I never posted this; here's why this is such an issue. This is looking from the screen back up the adjacent stairs!!!  |  IP: Logged Terry Lynn-Stevens Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1081 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Dec 2012 posted 12-05-2013 02:24 PM                     That is pretty brutal.  |  IP: Logged William Kucharski Expert Film Handler Posts: 244 From: Louisville, Colorado, United States of America Registered: Oct 2012 posted 12-11-2013 02:12 AM                     Yes, rather frightening, considering this shot is the venue's "premium" ETX house…  |  IP: Logged Buck Wilson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 894 From: St. Joseph MO, USA Registered: Sep 2010 posted 12-19-2013 02:01 AM                     Just visited AMC Odyssey 24 on Barry Road in Kansas City, and watched Anchorman 2 in their new 'AMC Prime' auditorium. Cushy leather recliners, nice red ambient lighting, and also sound loud enough to make my ears ache, no screen masking, dual projector setup with BOTH 3D polarizers in front of them(fantastic way to totally eliminate any benefits of the dual setup)and yes, aisle lights shining WAYYY up on both bottom corners of the screen EXACTLY like the picture the OP posted. I mean, it was a decent screening, but knowing it could be 80% better with 30 seconds of effort was extremely distracting.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 12-19-2013 08:42 AM                        OK. Allow me to be the one to throw cold water on this (can't let Joe have all the fun). This problem came up when I had my quad. Rather than arbitrarily turning down the exit lights, I asked the local fire marshal what rules might apply. They actually came back with a lumen number, or some such, that the sign was supposed to put out. As it happened, the light was to spec as delivered... which was exceptionally distracting. Now here's the question... You have a fire in an auditorium. Somebody gets hurt, or worse. It is claimed your exits couldn't be found because the exit lights weren't visible. The ensuing investigation shows your lights were not "code", or worse, intentionally turned down. Lawsuits everywhere?  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 12-19-2013 09:05 AM                     Then wouldn't the proper solution be to design the auditorium with exit doors placed in locations such that the exit lights would not shine onto the screen when at the proper level?  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 12-19-2013 11:42 AM                        quote: Ken Lackner Then wouldn't the proper solution be to design the auditorium with exit doors placed in locations such that the exit lights would not shine onto the screen when at the proper level? Well, of course it would, but it seems that rarely happens. You probably can't count the number of places where you've seen exits in front of an auditorium, either at the side or under the screen. That's probably natural, since the screens in multiplexes are often against the back wall of the building. It would be interesting to hear the conversation between an architect and whomever runs these projects at a theatre company, revolving around the suggestion an exit location should be set or modified because of the effects of the exit light. I can imagine the response would be something like... "oh, just turn it down"... which takes us back to the head of this chat.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-19-2013 03:42 PM                        Seems like there could be a way to modify, position or otherwise fix the lights so they don't shine on the screen. If a sign must be flat on the wall near the screen, maybe it would be possible to put some kind of "shield" in place to keep the light from shining onto the screen. Our exit door is next to the screen... we have an exit sign that sticks out from the wall, facing the audience. The letters are red so it's not too distracting. It had some holes on the back that let light leak onto the screen, so I covered them up. It just uses a couple of 7w night-light type bulbs so it's not very bright, but easily visible.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 12-19-2013 10:20 PM                        Talking with my wife about this today, the thought came up that you could hook the lights to your fire alarm system, so they exits would go full-up when the alarm went off. I suppose you could also tie them somehow to the regular house lights. ... except that's probably not the only time you might want full exit lights, so it'll likely remain a problem.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 12-20-2013 08:57 AM                        Code in most places required EXIT lighting to have its own conduit and control system; preferably wired past any branch panels. RED is very distracting; GREEN is much less so. In the days of 120 volt bulbs, I wired hundreds in series to effect a lessening of 80% in brightness. Kentucky only requires "visibility" which would allow lower levels during the show as well as OFF during intermission (who cares?). Certainly light shields keep light off the screen, but a red light in your direct vision is also bad. New york, at one time, wanted the radioactive exit lights that recharged off of the house lights during intermission; no power at all. They were a dull green and perfect as far as being not distracting. Louis  |  IP: Logged Jarod Reddig Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 513 From: Hays, Ks Registered: Jun 2011 posted 12-20-2013 08:46 PM                     The green exit lights indeed seem to be less distracting to my eyes. Red effects my peripheral vision more.  |  IP: Logged

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