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Author Topic: Disney Vs Exhibitors Over Fact That ‘Beauty & Beast 3D’ DVD Already Selling In Stores Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-14-2012 01:00 AM                        If Disney needs to go back to a movie that everyone already owns two copies of for their major releases, that is pretty sad.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-14-2012 04:15 AM                     Black bars or floating window? Disney loves them floatin' windows. I have not set up/seen this issue of BB (and probably won't). -Steve  |  IP: Logged Tom Petrov Five Guys Lover Posts: 1121 From: El Paso, TX Registered: Jan 2003 posted 01-14-2012 07:41 AM                    quote: Monte L Fullmer was the last to post The number of screens is not relevant. That's funny, because this re-release is being released in more theaters than the original release in 1991. Mike is actually incorrect. quote: Monte L Fullmer (and for Tom, there were 70mm prints struck for larger venues...). Yes Monte there were 70mm prints in 1991 and there were also 15/70 and 8/70 prints struck for large IMAX in 2002.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-14-2012 09:40 AM                        Tom, if it wasn't so much fun proving you wrong all the time, I'd just ignore you. I never said it wasn't a wide release. I said it wasn't a MAJOR release, and it isn't. Why don't you get into the cinema business for a few years and then maybe you'll know what you're talking about. quote: Tom Petrov That's funny, because this re-release is being released in more theaters than the original release in 1991. Mike is actually incorrect. What the HELL does the number of screens in 1991 have anything to do with? There are 15,000 more screens (in the U.S.) now than there were in '91, for one thing.  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 01-14-2012 11:49 AM                     Yep, those aren't black bars but floating windows on B&B 3D. And allow me (gulp) defend Tom for a quick second. Any movie released in to 2,000+ screens is considered a wide release. 3,000+ would be considered a saturation release. End of Tom defense, but please Tom... stop being such a small, narrow-minded, know-it-all prick. You are the broken clock of Film-Tech.  |  IP: Logged Jason Whyte Expert Film Handler Posts: 132 From: Victoria, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2002 posted 01-14-2012 12:09 PM                        How is Tom Petrov not banned from this forum? Isn't there an IMDB forum or AICN talkback you can go troll instead?  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 01-15-2012 10:23 PM                        The relevant issue here is not whether Beauty and the Beast is a wide release or a major release. The relevant issue is how the prior BluRay/3D release affects future 3D re-releases. For example, this could impact the 3D theatrical release of Star Wars, Titanic, Finding Nemo, etc. This is a completely different discussion than the DVD/BluRay window for new movies that have never before been available for any type of home viewing.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 01-16-2012 02:31 AM                     Spoke to many friends over the past few weeks that were stoked to see this on the big screen this weekend. It ended up doing about $18.5 million. For a 20 year old movie, that's not bad at all. I say keep them coming: movies belong in cinemas. AJG  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-16-2012 01:51 PM                     ..and $18.5M is good for a re-release that didn't cost Disney too much this time for the conversion since the film already banked $300+M during it's initial release.  |  IP: Logged Jim Henk Master Film Handler Posts: 364 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Feb 2006 posted 01-16-2012 07:06 PM                     With the BluRay in stores, aren't the exhibitors more worried about now being on a slippery slope? Of them setting precedent?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-16-2012 07:18 PM                        The thing is, though, that this would be a title that would be hard to set a precedent with. The movie is like 100 years old and everybody owns two copies. Usually re-releases like this are seen as "special events" and people will go see them on the "big screen" because they buy into hype just like trained sheep should. Plus, people know that this is actually a good movie. This is an entirely different scenario than a new release movie.  |  IP: Logged Jim Henk Master Film Handler Posts: 364 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Feb 2006 posted 01-16-2012 08:32 PM                     Hope you're right. Frankly, I think you're underestimating the studio's capacity to wiggle the point, but okay...  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-16-2012 09:26 PM                        I think if everyone in the world had 3DTV it would have been more of a sticking point. But only about what, 200 people have bought 3DTVs, and of those people, only maybe half of them have the right brand to work with the Disney BRs, and of those people, maybe a couple dozen might own the "Beauty" 3DBR, and of those people, only six might have enough 3D glasses for their kids to stage a movie watching party, so.... Disney and the theatre industry figures rightly that this is no big deal. (Note: The above numbers were written for comic effect, but if a person had the exact figure for how many 3DTVs were actually out there, he could probably extrapolate the numbers and be pretty close.)  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-16-2012 09:30 PM                        I just checked with the industry. Your numbers are indeed correct.  |  IP: Logged Anslem Rayburn Master Film Handler Posts: 476 From: Yuma, AZ, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 01-18-2012 06:41 AM                     Nevermind...  |  IP: Logged

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