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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Justin Hamaker
1. Does the town have adequate local shopping to keep people in town most of the time? This is an issue that really hurts my community because people regularly have to drive 90 minutes for most shopping. So when they are out of town they are also going to dine out, catch a movie, and other things.
This is a problem here too -- which is why I find it beneficial to play a lot of movies on the break, especially the hyped-up blockbuster hits that people feel they HAVE to see on the break. The biggest thing, though, is to make sure people are satisfied with the moviegoing experience at YOUR theater vs. the multiplex and feel like they're getting good value for their money. That way they don't feel so bad about forgoing the big city theater experience in favor of your theater.

Along this line -- make DAMN sure you have tremendously good popcorn. Don't fall into the "pop once a week" trap -- pop every day and in view of the customers, if possible. Every single day multiple people walk into our front door and go "oooooh, that popcorn smells good."

quote: Justin Hamaker
Something to consider is running as sub-run so you can double up most weeks. This will allow you more variety and keep more people in town.
This works for some mid-level titles, although I have found that almost NOTHING will "keep people in town" except a high school ball game.

quote: Justin Hamaker
try to get a handle on the senior population. These will often be your most reliable moviegoers - especially if you are open during the week.
They do go to a lot of movies but they don't buy much at the concession. The funny thing about seniors to me is, they are VERY loyal to their favorite stars and will go to their favorite star's movies even if the movie is something they're not interested in. We had a lot of seniors come to Ricki and the Flash -- not because they like rock'n'roll, but because they are Meryl Streep fans!

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Justin Hamaker
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quote: Mike Blakesley
they are VERY loyal to their favorite stars and will go to their favorite star's movies even if the movie is something they're not interested in.
When we played Ricki and the Flash, I would say more than 50% of the seniors asked for the Meryl Streep movie, rather than the title of the movie. They could save on marketing costs by simply calling her movies "Meryl Streep 2015" or something like that. The trailer wouldn't have to be anything other than a few shots of Meryl saying "She's got a new movie out".

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Buck Wilson
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Boy if that isn't the truth.

Every single one.

Black and White was a big one for that. Easily over half of the ticket sales for that movie were to people who wanted "That new Kevin Costner flick"

We even had a good online review come through... after the people WATCHED THE MOVIE... and still referred to it as the Kevin Costner movie.

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James Wyrembelski
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Im shocked actually how little places utilize facebook's "boost" feature. You can reach a pretty significant range and push your way ahead of everyone else with a very little investment. Only one theater I know currently uses this.

Heck, even I went to see Ricki and the Flash just because of Streep!

Well, as of right now things are idling. I'm waiting for his books to review them (I KNOW they're not good, but still want to take a peek) I just feel that I at least have to give this a shot. Especially since the largest debt will not exist. It's always the mortgage that's the biggest hurdle and with that gone right from the start how could I not at least try?

I'll be sure to keep updates on this.

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James Wyrembelski
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A small update

An offer has been made on the property and mostly waiting on what they decide from here. Hopefully its a yes....

And to answer a question I didn't respond to. A major pitfall of this town is lack of shopping. We have our local shops of course, a few having a decent draw for what they are, but really doesn't compare to the big box places or a mall.

Interestingly enough I've noticed a change in the trend of going out shopping. The mall closest to us is pretty much in its death spiral. Most major clothing stores have packed up and gone as well as shoe stores and even a few dining options are evaporating. These are being replaced by "local" type stores, massage parlors, and even a car dealership is using space to advertise new models. It retains its anchor stores like Target but the "innards" of the mall are pretty much gone and I now realize fewer people are making trips to the "city" to shop. I used to be in Midland at least once a week, now it's maybe once every few months.

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James Wyrembelski
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The offer has been accepted and as of now it looks to be Dec 1st as the day we take over. Ohhh how to decide what to play with only 1 screen....

I've been waffling back and forth as to take on this challenge even to this minute. Its a big step, but with the purchase price so low and ready to go with digital we felt we could take the risk. The nausea has set in and I'm sure that's not going to go away anytime soon [uhoh]

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Marcel Birgelen
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I'll guess you want to reopen with Star Wars then?

It would still give you about 18 days to get the basics right. Scrub the toilets, seats, put some paint on things that haven't seen some TLC for years and buy a ton of air-refreshers for the smell that remains after a good scrubbing and venting. Maybe get a new popcorn machine if the current one isn't good anymore. If a new one is too expensive, buy a used one.

Getting your website up to standard (hint) and positioning your social media propaganda can even be started before the 1st of December.

Personally, I'd also consider a name change, something that pays homage to the old name but makes clear stuff is going to change from now on.

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James Wyrembelski
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I've considered a name change as well. News already got out and I've got people as far as two towns over already telling me they're happy that they'll be able to return. So, some good signs there.

Popcorn machine works. Its the original Manley machine from 1940. I know I'll replace it once things get going decently, but it still does its job and is pretty clean!

We've already begun thinking of additional revenue streams such as local ad slides (no tacky commercials etc.) and leasing the exposed side of the building for advertisements.

We're going to hire Stanley Steemer or an equivalent company to come in and do all the upholstery and carpeting, deck scrub the floors, and paint areas desperately needing it. Having it professionally cleaned to us is an important selling point signaling that we're serious and not going to half ass this. Bathrooms will be re-done. They're small enough we can get this done in about 2 days. Nothing structural needs done which to us was a huge selling point for the price. It's all cosmetic! Its not selling for much more than what its taxable value is....which is only 21K, but that's what you get when you want a cash sale as soon as possible.

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Buck Wilson
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How fantastic! I'm so excited for you!!

-I've found that a mop with lemon Pine-Sol(after the deep clean) provides a very fresh, not overwhelming scent of clean that lasts for days.

-After the deep clean, KEEP IT CLEAN. Implement some sort of schedule for cleaning the things that don't necessarily need it every day, like the seat standard mounts(Metal where the seats mount to the floor)monthly, areas of frequent hand contact on doors weekly, etc. CLEANLINESS IS KING. Don't let popcorn spills sit on the floor. scoop it up with a dustpan immediately. No sticky counters. etc etc.

-Most here will tell you that if your Manley is clean and operational to KEEP IT. Supposedly one of the best poppers out there.

-Do whatever it takes to make your employees PROUD to work there and they will be extremely loyal and go above and beyond for you and the guests.

-DO make SURE your show times are ALWAYS readily available.

Signed,

Beyond Jealous

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Bill Brandenstein
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Congratulations, James. Now go rock this thing! We look forward to hearing stories of your success.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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A good film booker can save your hide, so hire a good booker that also books a lot of other screens. This way if you do go first run he can help move out any product that's stale. He could also help you do a combination of first run and move over. Move over when things ar slow because the studio percentages are generally lower. Most of my single and twin screen customers operate that way.

Mark

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Carsten Kurz
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Do it. As a matter of fact, the bad previous reputation now is your biggest chance. Show them you do better, and people will be glad this local cinema survives.
Of course, you need to put some money in to get the smell out. Worst investment probably could be seats. How is that? Would you say it needs to be replaced, or can it be upgraded/cleaned/modernized? Try to find local businesses that can help you, offer them free on-screen advertising. All this can help to establish a tight local communion.

We do run a single-screener, and I know a few others doing it successfully. Means, it barely earns a living, but a happy one.

- Carsten

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James Wyrembelski
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Thanks

That was my plan all along, a combination of first run and sub run when each situation warrants it. Probably going to keep the same booker that this one currently uses...at least until I feel them out and decide from there.

I'm confident people will return once things get turned around and once people nearby realize there's a theater in town. Yet again I've talked to a few locals that looked at me as though I was nuts when I mentioned it. Had no clue there was even one in town. I'll post some interior pictures of our beginning product and the changes we do over time.

The seats are plenty usable. Mostly dirty with things that come with theaters that haven't been really cleaned in maybe 15 years. Some are broken but we are taking the first two rows out to use as parts and to clear some space up front. They really packed em in up front.

I know this isn't something that's going to be earning me a living. But a small secondary income would be nice. Plus, it might help bring town even closer together and add to our growing desire and efforts to make this a place to visit like it used to be!

I do plan on Star Wars as the opener, and its already booked at this location anyhow.

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Buck Wilson
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Any updates?!

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Christopher Lani
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I will post a longer response late, but short answer is YES!!!!!!!!!!!! Do it !

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