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Martin Brooks
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 900
From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: May 2002
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posted 05-03-2017 09:04 PM
quote: Geoff Jones I would not pay $25 to see a new Star Wars movie at the cinema.
I would happily pay $25 to see the original Star Wars film at the cinema.*
I am thinking about paying $25 (per ticket) to take my daughter to see Titanic at the Littleton Alamo Drafthouse this summer. (The price includes brunch and drinks) I'm on the fence, but if it's the only way I can show her that film on the Big Screen, I may do it.
There are actually a number of movies I would pay ~$25 to see on the Big Screen, especially to take my kids to see them for the first time.
Geoff
*Not the Special Edition. I would not watch those even if you paid me $25.
Kids don't give a crap which edit of Star Wars they see. In fact, they even like the prequel trilogy AND they even like Jar Jar. My 8-year-old grandson is a big Star Wars fan, but he read kid versions of the stories before his parents would let him see the films. He knows every character no matter how minor and every plot line and he's very into building Lego models of all the ships.
He watched the Blu-ray of Episode I at my place and loved it. Every time JarJar did something really stupid that made me cringe, he cracked up laughing. Personally, I think the prequels had miserable writing and character development and at the same time they had this story about a little boy and an inane Jar Jar, you had political complexities and trade federation machinations that most young kids couldn't possibly understand. Which leads one to wonder who Lucas thought he was writing this for. And then there was the acting.
Since then, he's seen all the first six films, but his reactions prove to me that all the trivialities that the fanboys and geeks complain about really don't matter one iota with the possible exception of the Han shooting first change.
The originals probably won't be released in Lucas' lifetime, but even if they were, I guarantee you the geeks will complain anyway. Something will be slightly different than the way they remember it (even though most of them never saw the films before the special editions) or they'll claim the color timing is different than the way they remember seeing it in the theatre 40 years ago. Or, they'll complain that the surrounds are mono, since the original films were never mixed for split surround. Etc. --- The AMC Empire in NYC charges about $25 for the Dolby Vision screen (not including any food or drink, which are also at NYC prices). Regular theaters are around $15-$16 now. There is a small arthouse near where I live outside of Manhattan that charges around $8 before 5pm weekdays and I think $10 or $11 otherwise.
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Leo Enticknap
Film God

Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 05-17-2017 03:54 PM
quote: Martin McCaffery It would be illegal to do this with open captions, wouldn't it? I certainly wouldn't put it past someone to try.
You mean the movie in one foreign languages with subtitles in another? Interesting question: if a customer who does not know either language came to the box office and asked for subtitles and/or audio description in English, would the theater be in breach of DDA regulations if it couldn't provide them?
The first movie theater I ever worked at was in a suburb of south London that had a large Tamil population. They rented our largest screen (824 seats) for their shows, either for a midnight show on Saturday, or mid-morning on Sunday, depending on whether the film was child-friendly or not. The place was always packed, and that rental frequently kept our heads above water when the regular Hollywood stuff playing that week was underperforming. The prints were all unsubtitled, and the organizer explained to me that the cost of having a three-hour movie in an obscure language subtitled into English was so high that it was never going to happen, given the number of native English speakers who would ever come to see it, sadly.
Not that you needed subtitles to follow the plot, though. They all went roughly like this:
- Pretty girl wants to marry inoffensive boy - Pretty girl's father doesn't like inoffensive boy's family, and wants her to marry a gross and disgusting (and sometimes criminal) sleazeball from a family he does like. - Pretty girl and inoffensive boy elope - Father and sleazeball set off in pursuit - EITHER father and sleazeball end up dead as the result of sleazeball's criminal connections, OR father realizes the error of his ways and relents. - Boy and girl live happily ever after.
A lavish song-and-dance number usually intersperses most of these bullet points.
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