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Jarod Reddig
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Not your run of the mill Caddy dealership! [Eek!]

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Gary Meyer
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The closing was kept a secret until hours before it happened and only then did it hit the media. https://hoodline.com/2019/02/amc-van-ness-14-movie-theater-to-shut-down

I have it on good authority that a foreign-based company new to San Francisco will be taking over and making major changes---expect food and beverage, luxury seating and 4D. The place has been an unappealing location to see movies for many years so closing for big upgrades in a good thing and they can relaunch as if a new theater..

When AMC sold the Kabuki to Sundance it was because of the Justice Department insisting that they had too much control in SF and had to divest of screens. With a long-term lease on Van Ness and it having more screens, the Kabuki was the logical one to let go. But after Sundance made it a huge success, AMC now bought it again and once again faced the restraint of trade issues and had to divest again. Van Ness makes the most sense.

As to Opera Plaza there is hope that some good things are going to happen there too. Be patient.

And the Stonestown Twin is reportedly going to be replaced with a modern luxury multiplex.

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Lyle Romer
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quote: Jarod Reddig
Its despicable how run down they let these locations get before they shutdown.
If you are shutting down a location it is very hard to justify investing anything into it. Investments are amortized over some time period. If the time period to amortize doesn't exist, it is a very bad investment.

Also, in most cases a location that will be closed is losing money (or earning very little). In business you should never "throw good money after bad."

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Marcel Birgelen
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Well, I thought the re-use of the building as a cinema was a pretty classy way of keeping some of the old, while giving the space a new function.

So, I really hope someone is going to pick up the location and keeps the current function after some major refurbishments. If you want to keep the current lobby untouched, something like a supermarket seems almost out of the question. Furthermore, it would be a shame if it would end up as yet another generic multi-purpose office or apartment block, generally closed for the public. But since both office and living spaces are highly profitable markets in the crowded SF area, it has a high potential of ending up as one of those...

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Terry Monohan
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It may be the Mexican company CINEPOLIS they will give SF It's first 4D set up? The AMC 14 Van Ness was not that old but AMC let It go down hill the last few years. I think this new to the USA company is also going to open a cinema near the Hillsdale Center in San Mateo CA. Two new Showcase Icon Theatres have just opened in Mountain View and near San Jose CA.

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Stephan Shelley
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The Showcase Icon theatres are run by a family out of Chicago that has been running theatres for over a 100 years.

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Terry Monohan
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Many people around the movie business in SF think also the Cineworld Group (Regal) will be the new gang coming into the AMC 14 Van Ness spot in SF.
It may contain under one roof a Dolby Cinema® plus a first for SF Screen X along with 4DX. Regal Theatres for many years was a big player in the SF Bay Area.
Now with the new Regal Cinema going into the old Macy's spot at Stonestown to replace the cut up UA Twin we may have two new Regal theatres in San Francisco for the first time in many years.
Lets see who moves in the AMC 14 Van Ness and does all the remodel and up grades and offers things the movie going public wants in SF that AMC,Century/Cinemark and Landmark does not care to offer.

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Martin Brooks
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AMC has an exclusive on Dolby Cinema, so if it's a Regal, can have Dolby Atmos, but not Dolby Cinema.

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Michael Putlack
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I'll toss my AMC Van Ness memory in here for safe keeping...

While living in SF and working at the Kabuki when it was still run by Sundance, a co-worker and I were at the Van Ness to see Unstoppable, the movie with Chris Pine and Denzel Washington about a train that just couldn't be stopped!

We're standing in line and a dude in for concessions (our tickets were comped of course because we had a trade with them at the time) and some old dude in front of us turns around and asks the people behind us in line, who he must be with, if they want any popcorn. Since he was looking through us pretty much, I just said "sure, I'll have some!" or something to that effect.

The dude in front of us started laughing and his buds behind us started laughing too, so I turned around to laugh with them, and when I turned around I found out the person I was now laughing with was other than NEIL YOUNG! I am pretty sure all color rushed from my face as I started to feel a bit dizzy.

I composed myself, bought some popcorn, and he ended up sitting a few seats away from me in the movie. In the middle of the film, him and his friends must not have been liking the movie, because they all got up and left about half way through. I've met more than my fair share of celebrities, but that was the only time I've ever been starstruck.

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Terry Monohan
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Now the city has the place up for a homeless shelter but It did not pass on other places around town. Rumor is office space may go in?

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Terry Monohan
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Good news for all SF movie people. The old closed AMC Van Ness will soon return with a brand new theatre Koren chain called CJ CGV Theatres.
They will offer a first for SF 4D and a huge 3 projector EX system plus a giant curved screen and new sound/seats.
So glad this spot will open again sometime in 2020. They have two spots in the LA CA area at this time.

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Mike Croaro
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They should have leased the space to an American company.

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Terry Monohan
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Mike*** I don't think any creative American movie theatre company wanted to spend the time and money to go in and remodel the old SF AMC 14 space.
These S Korean theatre guys will make a bundle offerings things you can't see in SF for the tourists and local movie lovers as the few multi cinemas we have 2 AMC and a few Century/CineMark theatres in the SF area need some new gimmicks to get people away from streaming things at home. Lets hope they put in a nice place to eat and drink in the old boring empty AMC Van Ness main floor lobby entrance space at the entrance.
I vote for a Tropical Island type tiki bar and food place in the new cinema lobby with plants/waterfalls/color neon lights before or after a movie with some nice old movie posters from past tropical movies.
Something you will never see at Century or AMC cinemas.

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Mike Croaro
They should have leased the space to an American company.
An "American" company like AMC? [Razz]

I'm not a big fan of some of those CJ CGV gimmicks like 4DX, but at the very least, this place will keep showing movies. Also, gimmicks or not, CJ CGV is still pretty good at drawing in crowds over in their home market in South Korea. Nothing wrong with them trying to get a foothold in the Amercian market.

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Jim Cassedy
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I've been aware of this info since about a week after the AMC closed,
but I was was sworn to secrecy by my source. (And so I've also been
silently amused by all the speculation posted here & elsewhere)

While I am cautiously optimitic this may actually happen, I could give you
numerous examples of closed businesses and buildings, including a couple of
theaters, that have sat vacant, some for over a decade, after an announement
like this, due to the insane politics & permit processes in place here in SF.

So- - while it would be nice if this proposed project turns out to be true, my
general attitude at the moment about this is "I'll beleive it when I see it ".

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