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Author Topic: ADA service dogs Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-03-2018 10:21 AM                     quote: Nathan McLaughlin My biggest problem with this hole mess is my own kids rights seem to be nonexistent if my kids can't breathe Nathan, are your kids allergic to dogs? I've known plenty of people who were allergic to cats, but I've yet to meet someone who was personally allergic to dogs. I'm sure there are some who do have such allergies, but from what I've gathered doing some online research is dog allergies are rare. There are lots of people who don't like how dogs can smell, but that's not the same as an actual allergy. Another question is how many service dogs have you seen brought into a movie theater? I've personally seen them in lots of different public places, but I can't recall ever seeing one brought into a movie theater. The stadium seating layout of contemporary movie theaters just doesn't provide any practical space for a service dog. The dog owner would be stuck having to use one of those wheelchair seats, which are typically in isolated, shitty spots in the room. That's why my girlfriend's daughter doesn't bring her dog to a movie theater.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-03-2018 11:23 AM                     My girlfriend is allergic to dogs, cats and other animals. She is so allergic to horses that, if she touches a horse, she will break out in hives. One time, when she was a kid, she went horseback riding and her legs broke out so badly that she couldn’t walk, even though she was wearing jeans. Worse, she has asthma which can be aggravated by animal dander. She often hesitates to visit my parents house because they have a dog. (A Brittany Spaniel.) Even when we do visit, we have to make sure she has her asthma inhaler In case of breathing trouble. Strangely, we have a cat that she isn’t allergic to but only THIS cat. Somehow, she has acclimated to our cat, “Casper,” which is a white, American Shorthair. If she is exposed to another cat she may or may not have an allergic reaction. Bottom line: You never know what kinds of animals a person might be allergic to and you can’t always tell until a person is actually exposed to a particular animal.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-03-2018 11:52 AM                        Bobby, I'm allergic to dogs and cats. Fortuneately, not the deadly serious kind. I can be around them for a little while, but pay the price of puffy eyes and constricted breathing. And lots of sneezing. As dog allergies have always been "normal" for me, it is odd to see you've never heard of them. Oh well.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-03-2018 01:36 PM                        My mom-in-law was horribly allergic to dogs and cats both. I never saw anything like it. If she even went into a room where a dog HAD BEEN in the past month, she would start to get watery eyes, be wheezing and eventually have trouble breathing if she didn't get to fresh air. The symptoms would start within just a few minutes. She went to various doctors and tried all kinds of remedies over the years but nothing worked. For a long time I thought it was all in her head, but one time she came to visit us and almost immediately started to get sick...she said there had to have been a dog in our house, but we don't have a dog. Eventually we remembered my wife had "dog sat" for our neighbors for two days a couple of weeks before. So yeah, the struggle is real for certain people.  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 04-03-2018 02:40 PM                     I think this portion of the Q&A applies: When can service animals be excluded? A. The ADA does not require covered entities to modify policies, practices, or procedures if it would “fundamentally alter” the nature of the goods, services, programs, or activities provided to the public. Nor does it overrule legitimate safety requirements. If admitting service animals would fundamentally alter the nature of a service or program, service animals may be prohibited. In addition, if a particular service animal is out of control and the handler does not take effective action to control it, or if it is not housebroken, that animal may be excluded. At issue would be the definition of "fundamentally alter". A dog blocking an aisle could be addressed under "legitimate safety". In short, I think the law does give you some latitude.  |  IP: Logged Adam Peterson Film Handler Posts: 2 From: New Albany, MS Registered: Mar 2018 posted 04-13-2018 11:51 AM                     "but as we talked they said they trained ADA dogs" Are the dogs they're trying to bring to the theatre "service dogs in-training?" or Are the dogs fully licensed service dogs working for the owner? Also... if this theatre happens to be on a reservation, or owned / operated by a reservation, ADA does not apply. They have sovereignty over regs in their building...  |  IP: Logged Lindsay Morris Expert Film Handler Posts: 233 From: Darlington, WA, Australia Registered: Sep 2002 posted 04-14-2018 04:41 AM                     Over the years I ran an outdoor cinema I frequently had requests to bring dogs in..particularly the small lap type of pooch. Initially I allowed them to bring them in rather than keep them outside in a parked car on a hot night. It got out of hand one night when an elderly lady brought her Maltese cross in with her..almost carrying it in her bag & she assured me that she would NOT let it loose. On the same night I had two 14YO girls get dropped off by their mum to view the movie and they came complete with a wriggling Aust Cattle Dog puppy. Having already let one dog in I was reluctant to allow another but as mother had vanished I really had no choice & relented when the girls produced a lead & assured me that they would keep him tied to the chair they were sitting in. OK I thought NO problem. All was well until the elderly lady let her mutt loose & apparently the Maltese wandered down to where the 2 girls had their dog tethered. There is something about Cattle Dogs and smaller dogs they just don't get along (having had 2 Cattle Dogs I am sure they think the little things are cats & thus fair game). Once the pup got wind of the Maltese it was on & the girls HAD tethered their puppy to the seat frame BUT it was not their seat but the vacant one alongside. So in the middle of a movie the Cattle Dog pup took off after the Maltese dragging a gang of 4 stackable tip up type seats behind it on the lead. All hell broke loose when the seat assembly got stuck & the pup was barking like hell, the girls where yelling at their pup & the old dear was making an equal racket trying to get her Maltese back into her bag. Had to stop the show and put the lights on move the girls & their pup & help the old dear retrieve her wandering Maltese & settle everything down and back on with the show. SO NO Dogs after that until I had requests to allow Dogs for the Blind who were "in training" to come in so that they could get used to crowds & become socialised and THEY were never a problem. Dog poo on grass would be a big problem if people stepped on it or worse sat upon it as the venue encourages patrons to picnic on the grassed grounds  |  IP: Logged William Kucharski Expert Film Handler Posts: 244 From: Louisville, Colorado, United States of America Registered: Oct 2012 posted 04-14-2018 05:11 AM                     I've run into this on airplanes as well. I have had to change my seat because the passenger next to me had a service dog, and even though I found someone to swap with me, even from four rows back and across the aisle, I had a runny nose and was miserable for the entire flight. The only option the flight crew had for me was to take a different flight "on standby." Gee thanks. If I saw a service dog in a theater, I would probably request a refund and would attend a different showing.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-23-2018 07:19 AM                        Jim Jeffries on Service Animals  |  IP: Logged

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