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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Aaron Garman
Random question, but does anyone have a list of when some of the 90s Dolby Digital trailers were released? I'm doing some custom DVD building and trying to get appropriate trailers with films released in the same time frame, specifically 1999. A list of the THX ones would be great too.
I'm not sure if the original Train trailer was released in 1992 (at the time "Dolby Stereo Digital" was introduced). That longer pan flute tinged Train came out in 1995. City was also introduced in 1995 -which updated the Dolby Digital logo to, ahem, "Dolby Digital." Another Train trailer with the updated Dolby Digital logo followed (without the pan flute thing, but not as aggressively mixed either).

Canyon and Egypt were released in either 1997 or 1998. I'm not sure. I'm fairly certain Rain and Aurora came out in 1999. Weren't those two created for the introduction Dolby•EX? Since then Dolby hasn't released any Dolby Digital trailers that I've liked much at all.

There is a list of THX trailers, information about them and little .WMV files located here. Unfortunately, the THX site has nothing about the Cimarron trailer (1988). That's my favorite THX trailer.

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Joe Redifer
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The whistle train came out before 1995. It was out for over a year before the City came out. I thought the City was kind of lame because it showed everyone going to the Dolby theater which is clearly a single screen place built in 1931.

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Bobby Henderson
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I didn't see that flute type DD Train trailer until May of 1995 when the Casa Linda 4 theater in Dallas put in a couple Dolby Digital systems. The few Dolby Digital shows I saw at in 1994 were at GCC Northpark 1-2 in Dallas (the DFW area had hardly any DD equipped theaters at the time). Obviously they were playing the more kick-ass version of Train. It made children who were going to watch The Lion King cry in fear. Pretty damned cool.
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Joe Redifer
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I just remember having played the whistle version for more than a year when we got the City version when it first came out. Then it was at least another year or two when the crappy Temple/Canyon/Egypt things came out. Those trailers had next to no animation at all and were rendered at less than HD resolution and sounded boring at best.

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Bobby Henderson
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I think it's pretty strange that both Dolby and DTS have their best quality audio formats ever now playing on Blu-ray, yet none of the Blu-ray movies I've bought up to this point have any Dolby or DTS trailers on them.

Has either company created any promotional trailers at all for Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio? Those formats would seem more trailer-worthy than their data lossy predecessors.

None of the Blu-ray discs I own have any THX trailers on them either. Not even the Pixar ones.

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Joe Redifer
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They should release a Blu-ray with nothing BUT that stuff on it, in each format: Dolby TrueHD, DTSHDMA and Linear PCM. Also 192Hz 128-bit audio as well. No more of this 16-bit 48khz crap. That audio resolution is for homeless people.

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Tom Mundell
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quote: Bobby Henderson

Has either company created any promotional trailers at all for Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio? Those formats would seem more trailer-worthy than their data lossy predecessors.
There is a DTS-HD Master Audio trailer. I've only seen it only once though, it's on something I just bought recently (I think it was either Up or season 2 of Star Trek maybe? I'll have to double check later...) I haven't seen any Dolby trailers yet...

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Mark J. Marshall
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quote: Bobby Henderson
Obviously they were playing the more kick-ass version of Train. It made children who were going to watch The Lion King cry in fear. Pretty damned cool.
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Yeah it was. We ran the train with The Lion King. We *HAD* to turn it up to accommodate The Lion King's mix, which made the Train incredibly powerful. This was also our public's first exposure to digital sound. The high pitched screeches and thunderous thumps coming from all of the speakers at the same time was pretty overwhelming to them. We heard quite a few "Holy Shit!"s back in those days. I'd love to see that trailer come back.

Back to the topic - I have something labeled "Dolby Mancini", but have no idea as to its age.

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quote: Bobby Henderson
none of the Blu-ray movies I've bought up to this point have any Dolby or DTS trailers on them.
Because people don't give a shit?

I wish all movie disks would just get right to the stupid movie when inserted. Once you've seen the Universal or Fox logo 10,000 times on TV it starts to lose its cool, but for some reason it's always cool to see them on the big screen.

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Joe Redifer
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Tom, it isn't on UP because I have that and Star Trek is in Dolby TrueHD so there is a 55+% chance that it won't be on that one either.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Mike Blakesley
I wish all movie disks would just get right to the stupid movie when inserted.
I agree, but I'm far less annoyed by a THX & Dolby snipe, followed by the film distributor logo at the front of the movie than the parade of forced trailers and even TV commercials on so many DVDs and even Blu-ray discs these days.

I liked seeing the THX trailers and sound format trailers right before the beginning of the movie. Most members of the audience saw it as a cue that they need to bring their conversations to a quick end because the movie was finally about to start. And if they wanted to keep talking the bone-jarring dynamics of a good sound format trailer would shut em up anyway!
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The various sound and THX format thingies might be good extras to have on a Blu-ray disc in a audio/video optimizer extra. Some of the old Pixar DVDs had those things (the "optimizer" things). The Abyss DVD had the Dolby "Rain" trailer hidden as an easter egg and the 2nd disc.

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The optimizer included on the Pixar Blu-rays is very odd. It shows what to look for and then the next screen what they show is completely different, with crap blinking on and off and spinning around and whatnot. WTF?

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quote: Bobby Henderson
Most members of the audience saw it as a cue that they need to bring their conversations to a quick end because the movie was finally about to start.
Funny you mention that. We used to run the Broadway 2000 trailer (with the fader set at "7" of course) and that thing shook the hell out of the theater (and the managers office upstairs too). You could hear all kinds of mumbling going on until that deep note hit - then - dead silence. Talk about a way to shut everyone up.

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Ah, found it! You're right Joe, it's not Up but it is on Star Trek TOS season 2.

I'm a big fan of having something to separate trailers from the feature; I prefer the THX (or Dolby, DTS or whatever snipes) but even the AMC feature presentation works well. Regal doesn't have anything (around here at least) and it always seems like a good portion of the audience doesn't even notice the movie is beginning, especially after so many trailers...

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Aaron Garman
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Thanks for the info fellas.

If you're interested in seeing a bunch of these, and like .vob files, run a google search for THX trailers.

Look for the second link...

They have two versions of Train, and I'm guessing neither is the fabled original one with all the thump. I'd love to get my hands on one of those.

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