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Rachel Carter
Expert Film Handler

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From: Gloucester, Massachusetts, USA
Registered: Dec 2000


 - posted 03-17-2001 03:11 AM      Profile for Rachel Carter   Email Rachel Carter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Am I the only one other than Andrew that sees the page correctly?

Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
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 - posted 03-17-2001 02:27 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Lemme guess.... you use Internet Explorer.

Andrew McCrea
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 03-17-2001 04:48 PM      Profile for Andrew McCrea   Author's Homepage   Email Andrew McCrea   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Maybe I should make a preview page that states that "This site may not work with Netscape"

I hate Netscape. I can't view flash with it!

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Andrew McCrea

"I'm Not Bad, I'm Just Drawn That Way!" - Jessica Rabbit

Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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 - posted 03-17-2001 05:25 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You can view Flash with Netscape. You just have to configure it properly, which is no more difficult to do than it is with IE. In fact, I've always had an easier time with Flash and Netscape then I have ever had with Flash and IE.

If you make a preview page, how will you be sure THAT will work with Netscape? Again, you are alienating potential users by creating horrible code. Perhaps you should just limit it to people who use IE 5.5 running Windows ME on a 450Mhz processor with a K-Mart sound card.

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Joe Redifer

"I'm Not Bad, I Just Know How To Code HTML" - Joe Redifer


Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 03-17-2001 06:24 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Joe's right -- don't annoy potential customers by telling them that their hardware/software isn't good enough for your site. Also, don't force Flash down their throats. Some of us don't have the plugin installed, and others are on slow connections or have slow computers and would prefer not to see the Flash-y intro. It can be cool, but it shouldn't be forced on people.

Here's what Tim Berners-Lee (the inventor of http) had to say about browser-specific code: "Anyone who slaps a `this page best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearing for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network." -- Tim Berners-Lee in Technology Review (1996-07)

Check out the "campaign for a non-browser-specific web": http://www.anybrowser.org/ Note that another reason for creating valid code (other than that it is the correct thing to do) is that invalid code that works now may depend upon bugs in a particular browser; if and when these bugs are fixed and all browsers are designed to work only with valid code, your page will become unviewable by anyone. This would be bad. Only valid code will be guaranteed to work in the future.

Oddly enough (in this context), the Anybrowser campaign started circa 1995 when people started using proprietary Netscape tags and then putting a "best viewed with Netscape" label on their pages, which annoyed lots of us to no end.

Remember that the entire world isn't composed of PC-users running Windows and MSIE on fast connections. People browse the web using everything from portable cell phones to IBM mainframes, and all the platforms in between. MSIE only runs on Windows, MacOS, and (debatably) on HP-UX and Solaris. Anyone using a different platform (or who, like me, couldn't get MSIE to run on his desired platform) must use some other piece of software to look at web pages, and many Windows users also do so by choice or necessity. To annoy potential customers is to lose them to the competition.

Andrew McCrea
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 645
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 03-17-2001 07:25 PM      Profile for Andrew McCrea   Author's Homepage   Email Andrew McCrea   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Joe,
That's a good copy of my signature....

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Andrew McCrea

"I'm Not Bad, I'm Just Drawn That Way!" - Jessica Rabbit



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