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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 04-06-2001 01:06 PM

AFAIK, somewhere close to $20K.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion

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Jason Burroughs
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Allen, TX
Registered: Jun 99

posted 04-06-2001 01:41 PM

As much as I hate Sony, I have to admit that their digital cameras are pretty good. My wife has a Sony DSC-70 which as 3.3 mega pixel caputre, 8x zoom, can do video capture in the form of a MPEG file. We bought it for about $600, but list price is about $700-750. We recently had a picture professionally printed, and it looked like it came off a 35mm negative. It does very well in both outdoor and indoor lighting. Annother advantage is that it is rather compact and durable. Lenses can be changed out, unlike many other cameras out there. IMHO even though it is a Sony, it recieves an A in my book.

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 04-06-2001 03:16 PM

Hi, Jason.

You bet! I have done some frame captures from Hi-8, converted them to BMP's, and they came out next to perfect, even in analog. The picture of me to the left was taken that way.

It's even better that John's picture above.

(Well, almost. I am not as ugly as him....
Sorry, John. I just had to say that)

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Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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posted 04-06-2001 04:55 PM

So, Paul... you're saying that the camera you have only makes you LOOK ugly?

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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posted 04-06-2001 08:30 PM

Randy, I went through three lenses before video camera was able to take the video of me without melting the lense.

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Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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posted 04-06-2001 11:30 PM

So that picture was taken with one of the melted lenses?

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 04-07-2001 01:12 AM

Paul, I can tell just by the colors that your pic is a video grab. A single chip Hi8 if I am not mistaken.

My picture is taken from a frame grab from an OMNIMAX motion picture, obviously.

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Paul G. Thompson
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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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posted 04-07-2001 01:24 AM

Hi, Joe.

The Handi-Cam was a Sony Hi-8 CCD-TR81, in a very poor light setting. I was quite pleased on how it turned out. Considering it is non-professional equipment, it does a nice job.

It is a fairly old device now, and I would presume today's state-of-the-art home level unit does much better.

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Randy Stankey
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posted 04-07-2001 03:04 AM

So is THAT howcum you're pointing your finger at the camera? I gotta' go out and get me a pair of 3-D glasses to see the whole effect, right?

Oh, by the way... I don't need a camera to make me look bad. My picture is true-to-life... I'm NATURALLY ugly!

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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posted 04-07-2001 03:18 AM

Joe, that actual picture of yours must have been crystal clear. I compared pictures, and it looks like the best quality of them all.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 04-07-2001 08:13 PM

I want to be able to have a different picture for each post I make, depending on my mood. That would piss Brad off and detroy the UBB program, but it would be worth it!

My uncle just got a Kodak DC4800 and I am not impressed as I would like to be. It was cheap ($479 before a $100 rebate, 64 Meg card, 2 batteries and a pretty yellow box), but I was dismayed at how noisy the pictures come out. Even on next to no compression, you will get video noise artifacts (red and green specks all over in the dark spots). I can't stand that. The color is pretty good after you fix it up with PhotoShop. I guess you do get what you pay for, though.

John Pytlak -- tell the guys that I want NO NOISE in the next digital camera! Thanks.

I have used my Epson PhotoPC 750Z in super hi res mode (about 2 megapixels) to take pictures that have been published in magazines, and they looked pretty good!

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Joe Redifer
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posted 04-08-2001 02:07 AM

Oh, and John.... about those Kodak 64MB flash cards that come with the DC4800: They crash my computer when I try to unmount them. This is a known issue at Kodak. I'm sure that you have personally designed a new and improved Kodak 64MB flash card, correct?

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Randy Stankey
Film God

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posted 04-08-2001 03:29 AM

I am using Lexar Media's USB enabled CF cards. They come with a dongle that goes into the USB port. Plug it in and load the driver and you're off. Just insert the card and it appears as if it were a floppy disk on your desktop. Toss it in the trash and wait for the light to stop flashing and you can remove the card. The only thing I have had problems with is that they have a tendancy to remount themselves if you leave them in the dongle after you dismount them. My solution is to remove them as soon as I dismount them.

Unless those flash cards that you are using aren't compliant with the standards of what a Compact Flash card should be there's no reason that they should crash the computer. I would have to say that it's in the driver or some kind of extension conflict. (If you don't have Conflict Catcher you ought to get it!)

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Joe Redifer
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posted 04-08-2001 04:15 PM

No Randy, it is a problem with just the 64MB version of Kodak's Flash card. Every other size from Kodak works fine.

I use Lexar Media flash cards and mount them with a SanDisk CompactFlash to USB adapter thingy. The cards act just like any other mounted disc. You can copy files to them, install and run programs from them, defrag them, and plant a hidden virus on them. Fun!

I don't like Conflict Catcher because the last time I tried it it wanted to restart the computer a billion times just to find the problem. I ain't gots time for that yo! Anyway I am always able to correct any problem on the Mac quickly and easily.

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Randy Stankey
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posted 04-08-2001 04:33 PM

I don't use the debugging feature very often... mainly because I never HAVE to!
I use it for keeping all my extension sets in order. Every time I install a new device or program it gets a new set. That way IF I have problems I can deactivate the SETS of extensions one by one and find the problem. The only time I had extensions conflicts that I couldn't find this way was when iTunes came out. There was this funky thing where it wouldn't work if there was a certain CSM in your "Control Stick" folder. Took me about 30 minutes to figure it out.

If I knew more people who had CF readers I'd start using them as floppies! Did you see that new thingy that looks like a key chain? It plugs right into the USB port and acts like a disk drive. No moving parts! Talk about all the "James Bond" possibilites with THAT thing!

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